Hi Sandy, If you'll pardon my asking, what methods did you use to look for this command? I am trying to figure out why the BP manual is difficult for some people to use. Personally, I have found it to be one the best manuals I have ever seen, for any product, not just blindness-related ones. So, what steps did you take? Did you go through the sections and try to find one on moving or navigating in different increments? Or, did you use a Braille search and look for the word "percent", or the word "large"? These are both words you used in your original message. I searched in the manual, and found the power move command by searching for "percent" three times, and the word "large" four times. In other words, I went to the Braille find mode, input the word "percent" or the word "large, and used the 8+9 command three and four times respectively, and there I was, in the exact section I was looking for. Please know, Sandy, that I am *NOT* trying to pick on you or set you up as an example. I am trying to come up with the best ways to help new users get comfortable with the BookPort and all it can do. -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sandy Licht Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:25 AM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port Beta History? I looked for it, but I didn't find it. Then Grant, I believe, pointed out the key strokes. At 10:37 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: >It's in the manual. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxx > >To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:30:43 -0500 > >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port Beta History? > > >I agree with you totally on that. By the way, whatever happened to the > >command to move forward in a text by large chunks, such as by 49 percent. > > >At 01:21 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: > >>I would hasten to add, however, that it is human nature not to read > >>documentation. I would further state that those on this list who appear > >>to be most knowledgeable have, in all likelihood, taken the time to do > >>just that. > >>I do not recall whether or not there was a Bookport mailing list when I > >>received my Bookport on August 13, 2003. However, I found that after > >>reading some of the start up cassette, and subsequently reading the > >>on-board documentation, I was able to use the device well enough. > >>Although the Bookport and its accompanying software and firmware have > >>evolved and improved significantly over the past two years, I firmly > >>believe that reading the documentation is still an excellent formula for > >>acquiring knowledge. > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Licht > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:06 PM > >>To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port Beta History? > > > >>When most people need help, they are not going to be patient enough to > >>look > >>at an FAQ. It would be the logical thing to do, but when, let us say, > >>the > >>Bookport isn't working properly, or perhaps it is just plain operator > >>error, humans like to get information from other humans. > > > > >>At 08:53 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote: > >>>I would agree in principle, but for two things, based on experiences > >>from > >>>other lists. First, people rarely check FAQ's and bring their questions > >>to > >>>lists anyway, and second, people can be rather brusque and unkind > >>>sometimes in refering people to the FAQ. > > >>>Bruce > > >>>-- > >>>Bruce Toews > >>>E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx > >>>Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): > >>http://www.ogts.net > >>>Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > >>>On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Barrett, Don wrote: > > >>>>I think we need a FAQ as the same questions keep getting asked and > >>>>answered again and again, such as: > > >>>>How big a memory card will the book port take? > >>>>Where are the "What's New" files for the software and the firmware > >>located? > >>>>Who gets notified of new versions of the software and firmware? > >>>>What kinds of files will the BookPort support? > >>>>What navigation will I get with indexed versus unindexed files? > > > >>>>I just think this will to a degree cut down on list traffic. > > >>>>Don > > > > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:15 AM > >>>>To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port Beta History? > > > >>>>There is nothing new in the softare, but if you wish to see what is > >>new > >>>>in the firmware, look at www.aph.org/beta/bpx_new.htm > > > >>>>>>>jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Monday, July 25, 2005 9:16:44 PM > >>>>I downloaded the new beta Book Port software. Where can I find a > >>>>description of the items added and what function keys to press to get > >>>>these items? > >>>>Jim Nuttall > > > > >>Sandy Licht > >>Phone: 409-898-8218 > >>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A > >>11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They > >>are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a > >>hope. > >>12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in > >>earnest, > >>you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the > >>LORD... > > >Sandy Licht > >Phone: 409-898-8218 > >Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A > >11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They > >are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. > >12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in > earnest, > >you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the > >LORD... Sandy Licht Phone: 409-898-8218 Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A 11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. 12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the LORD...