Joanne It is situations such as these, and I've run into them more times then I want to remember, as to why I *always* try retain older copies of software I've previously installed. That way, if I later discover that a given version is causing me problems,, I can conveniently discard it. In the case of RAV, it took me a long time to nail it -- and, as it now turns out, it has been the thorn in my pc side that has caused me hours upon hours of problems. Being a new pc, I first thought that it had something to do with the operating system as installed, the tweeking I had done, Window-Eyes 6.1, and a host of other causes. As some on this and other lists may recall, I reported other problems with RAV and other weird pc anomalies, but no one suggested that RAV8.41 would be the source of them. And, I just looked at the time stamp on your msg, and that was almost the exact time I decided to return to 8.31. -- To unsubscribe: e-mail blindreplay-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in subject To contact list owner: e-mail blindreplay-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx