Mercury Register, California USA Monday, October 15, 2007 What's Up Oroville: Roundabout Opinion By Mary Weston Article Launched: 10/15/2007 08:31:33 PM PDT "There are in fact two things, science and opinion, the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance." Hypocrites The difference between fact and opinion not based upon evidence is nowhere more apparent than on the roundabout issue in Oroville. People who are against installing a roundabout state opinions not related to facts and cite rumors they have heard about roundabouts in other areas that have caused everything from traffic problems to deaths. So far, I have not been able to confirm any of these rumors, as they are always something like someone knows someone who knows someone in the Bay Area who said they finally had to rip out the roundabouts in a San Francisco neighborhood. Then there are the people who inaccurately cite research, like the person who wrote a letter to the editor last week. The person claimed that a study by the North Carolina State University research team determined roundabouts are more dangerous to pedestrians than signalized intersections because vehicles have the right-of-way. The university (NCSU) in conjunction with Western Michigan University is in fact looking for treatments for roundabouts to make safer crossings for visually impaired pedestrians, which would also help older pedestrians and pedestrians with physical disabilities, said Bastian Schroeder, a Ph.D student at the Institute for Transportation Research and Education at North Carolina State University. ""The study (NCHRP3-78) is not because roundabouts are more dangerous to pedestrians, but to find safer treatments for visually impaired pedestrians," Schroeder said. The language on the Web site announcing a study states that designers were concerned about pedestrian safety at continuous flow intersections, not that there was a problem with pedestrian safety. Schroeder said roundabouts pose a problem to the visually impaired, and audible signals can't be installed at these intersections like at signalized intersections. Audible signals can be installed at lights to signal visually compromised people when to cross the intersection. The intersection on Washington and Montgomery where the roundabout is proposed, however, does not have such a device. Nor do the majority of signaled intersections in town. Additionally, Schroeder said he didn't know of any research that determined roundabouts are more dangerous for pedestrians, but there is research that they are safer because of slower traffic speeds, including the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety study, a study from an independent agency. "From my experience, if a roundabout is designed properly, in general, the slower speeds in single-lane roundabouts make it safer for pedestrians," Schroeder said. He said the problems in the past were with circular intersections that were large with faster traveling speeds and without features such as yield signs. Professor Dr. Joe Hummer, of NCSU, said the consensus seems to be that roundabouts and signalized intersections provide about the same levels of safety for pedestrians. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety concluded roundabouts reduce injuries and accidents. "A 2001 Institute study of 23 intersections in the United States reported that converting intersections from traffic signals or stop signs to roundabouts reduced injury crashes by 80 percent and all crashes by 40 percent," according to results from the study at iihs.org. Another letter writer bemoaned the scuffs and scrapes on roundabouts in Chico. I have personally driven though the roundabouts on 8th Avenue in Chico many times, as I used to live near there. I have not seen nor had any problems while driving through these small roundabouts, and the cars travel at very slow speeds. But since the letter writer said Eric Teitelman can't recommend a roundabout because he lives in Chico, I supposed I can't talk about my experiences either because I used to live in Chico. That seems to be the logic. Still, I drive through the intersection at Washington and Montgomery four to six times a day. This same individual stated that the people don't want a roundabout. Does he speak for all the people of Oroville or just those coerced into signing a petition because they were hungry and wanted a hamburger and fries? No one wants to tick off the person who is preparing their food. Still I talk to and hear from many people who think a roundabout is a good idea. An anonymous high-level employee at Oroville High School thought a roundabout would work well at that intersection when I asked their opinion a few months back. That person had worked at a school near a roundabout in the past. I think we need to separate fact from opinion. Now if you just say, I don't want a roundabout, because I am not familiar with them, and I am afraid it won't work here, or I once drove through a roundabout and got stuck for half a day, or I've driven through roundabouts and like them, that's our opinion, and we are all welcome to an opinion-even people who live in Chico. Let's just recognize the difference between fact and opinion. Mary Weston is the city reporter for the Oroville Mercury-Register http://www.orovillemr.com/news/ci_7188355 BlindNews Mailing List Subscribe: BlindNews-Request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" as subject Unsubscribe: BlindNews-Request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" as subject Moderator: BlindNews-Moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Archive: http://GeoffAndWen.com/blind RSS: http://GeoffAndWen.com/BlindNewsRSS.asp More information about RSS feeds will be published shortly.