There is OE Classic, which is designed to be just like Outlook Express.
It still exists. I last used it several years ago, so can't say for
certain that it is still fully accessible, but it used to be. There's
a paid and a free version, and the paid version was the one to
get...of course. LOL It worked well with Jaws.
I'm unsure why I stopped using it, and I've struggled with gmail in a
browser ever since. I may take another look at this, myself and try it
again.
Christina
On 6/14/22, mrsingle@xxxxxxxxxxx <mrsingle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jon,
Here I agree withDan,
I use micro soft outlook on both my machines at home.
As Dan says, I am not talking about m s web outlook. I am talking about
the outlook that is part of the m s office suite.
Yes, you have to be online to send and receive messages, but you do not have
to be online to read and write new messages.
From: blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Dan Schaefer
Sent: June 14, 2022 11:41 AM
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindcooks] Re: Out of the loop
John, Outlook is not dependent on using the internet at all! You only need
the internet for setting up your email service and for downloading and
uploading mail. I personally have been using it for over 30 years. Like you,
I cannot stand web mail services. I think you should give it another look!
Dan
From: blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Rawlings
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:55 AM
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindcooks] Re: Out of the loop
RRobert,
In the past, some people have confused the regular Outlook email program
with Outlook Express. In case you have that assumption, let me just say
right now that they are two entirely separate programs. Outlook Express was
a phenomenal, and very user-friendly email client that made handling email
is sent. There honestly wasn't anything wrong with it that I can remember. I
use Outlook Express for over 20 years on various computer systems. The
regular Outlook program, which depends on you getting on the Internet to use
it, absolutely sucks! It is a disaster of a product, especially for the
Blind and low vision. If there are a handful of blind people out there that
have figured out how to use it, then I say good for them. But there are not
words in any language strong enough to communicate my contempt for the
Outlook program. Outlook Express should never have been allowed to become
obsolete. It was everything that an email program should be, and nothing
that it shouldn't be. Likewise, I find Gmail very cumbersome to use, and I
don't like Google as a company much I need help. There has got to be
something out there somewhere that is at least a decent email program while
still being functional for the blind. But it is most definitely not
Outlook.
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------
From: Robert Lee Beach <robertbeach@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 6/13/22 7:26 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindcooks] Re: Out of the loop
Outlook is part of Office 365, but you can get Outlook without having to
purchase Office.
From: blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Jan Bailey
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 6:32 PM
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindcooks] Re: Out of the loop
Mine wasn’t free, but you can get Microsoft 365 for about $100 or a little
more a year. To me it’s well worth it.
Jan
From: blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of Robert Lee Beach
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 4:10 PM
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blindcooks] Re: Out of the loop
Jon,
I have been using Outlook for a long time and have found it very workable.
It is free for your mobile and PC devices.
From: blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:blindcooks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of Jon Rawlings
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 7:23 PM
To: blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blindcooks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blindcooks] Out of the loop
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Hi list.
Sorry I have been absent from the list for a while. This past month has been
insane! Starting with the weekend of Mother's Day, here in the United
States, things just went crazy. Not only was their Mother's Day, Emily's
birthday, and Heather's birthday all in the same week, but we also had a
special religious event for Heather that Saturday, and my in-laws were here
for six days. Also at the same time, little Charlie has been teething badly,
making my day is rather difficult. As if that wasn't bad enough, a nasty
cold sweat through our family starting about the third week of May, just
before Memorial Day. I had all kinds of grandiose plans to fire up Smokey
Bear, the name I have designated for my massive new charcoal grill, cooking
some chicken drumsticks on it, and inviting a family or two to join us that
day for a good old-fashioned barbecue. It didn't happen, because I was the
one who was sick. And for some reason, now with Charlie crawling, my life
has suddenly become even more complicated but, he's a trooper, at a cutie,
and with the summer heat coming on here in Vegas, we have been locked inside
long enough that we are all just about going nuts. We are looking forward to
a trip to my mom's house on Saturday for some swimming and quite possibly a
little picnic on the back lawn. As a result of all this, I have not been
checking my email very often. I miss being able to use email on my PC, as
opposed to my cell phone. But I find Windows Live Mail to be a very unstable
and unreliable program for an email client. On that note, I'm open to
suggestion that do not involve Google Mail or any of the web-based email
site.
As far as food goes, I have been having a lot of fun. When my father-in-law
was here, he taught me how to make rice perfectly every time using something
called the pasta method. Essentially, you cook your rice in about four or
five times the amount of water that you are using for rice, cook it for
about 15 minutes on a gentle simmer, drain the rice, then put it back into
the pot got it cooked in, with the lid securely in place, and let it stand
for about five more minutes. I have to admit, my rice has been just about
perfect every time I do it, but the key is to let the rice drain thoroughly
before putting it back into the pot again. As far as actual recipes I have
made lately, I tried one last Saturday 4 noodles with a lot of chicken and
asparagus in it, that was dressed with a delicious Sesame peanut sauce. It
was pretty easy to put together, and Emily loved it so much that she
requested that I put it back on the next menu again. I am trying to simplify
my menus, or at least that's what I tell myself when I plan the menu, but
I'm not doing very well at it. I need to use the oven a whole lot less with
this heat. I am going to try using Smokey Bear, on the next menu cycle, to
do our cast iron pizzas. This Grill is wonderful because I can set the
temperature to exactly what I want it to be, and the grill automatically
takes care of the rest. Yet it uses charcoal, not pellets. We can still make
our pizzas and summer without heating up the house. Anyway, I'm trying to go
through all of my emails and get caught up, but it's going to take me a
couple of days. Right now I am stealing time away from the baby, and it is
obvious he wants me to feed him something solid. Just wanted to let you all
know I'm still here, and I'm still giving some serious thought to moving the
list to another server. But one thing at a time.
Jon
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