MessageHi Jonathan and all, I was under the impression this topic was over a couple of days ago, yet the insults of me and total misunderstandings of the entire situation are being allowed to continue. I am thus in the process of preparing a full and complete response to everything. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Mosen To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: RE: wow, what an insult Hi Jerry, I think the vast majority of us really appreciate the mammoth effort you have put into this project, and also the steps you've taken to work around the accessibility issues that are not of your making. You truly are an inspiration to me in your career and all you have achieved, as well as your willingness to share you knowledge with us so freely and comprehensively. the Internet has many benefits, but there are negatives to it as well. One of those negatives is that it can give anyone with the skills quite the platform to trash the doers and achievers in this world, those who actually go out and achieve things while others sit on the sidelines and bleat. Sadly Jerry, some people do, others criticise and destroy. If we're going to talk about boycotts or collective action, then it's about time some of us put statements on our blogs and web sites that certain people don't speak for us. Darrell sure as hell doesn't speak for me with his incredibly embarrassing and counterproductive behaviour. Keep on keeping on. Jonathan Mosen Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com Ph: +1-925-566-9265. Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671 -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Halatyn [mailto:jhalatyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2005 12:39 a.m. To: Darrell Shandrow Cc: Adam Curry; C.C. Chapman; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Marlaina Lieberg; Jeff Bishop Subject: Re: wow, what an insult Darrell, First of all, I don't subscribe to your podcast and I don't follow your journal. It was brought to my attention by someone else. Second, your facts are wrong about the song not being available to blind podcasters. The song is and always was available directly from me. Jeff asked if he could give it to other podcasters and decided to post it on his website. As I said, there was no way of ensuring that only podcasters would receive the song so, it was decided by both of us to change the method of delivery. The inaccessibility of the Podsafe Music Network is not nmy problem. Deal with it. That this is not endorsed by UNICEF is entirely correct but that has no bearing on whether it is a legitimate project. This project was only born on October 31st of this year when Adam played the tune and had the idea of making it a benefit. Do you think that anyone could've gotten UNICEF to endorse it in no time at all? Fat chance. Further, I worked my fingers to the bone for almost 30 straight days, pulling 12 to 16 hour days with no pay, no financial support from any other entity. I paid all out-of pocket expenses by myself. I registered domain names. I'm paying a designer who is designing and maintaining the website. I'm spending hours upon hours, helping people who are having trouble here and there with downloads or payments to Paypal. I'm spending hours upon hours writing and editing press releases, e-mailing mainstream media, setting up interviews. I'm about to hire a publicist to try and spread the word about this benefit project. All of this is at my own expense. I not only don't make money on this deal -- I actually lose money. These are all, of course, facts that you would have no knowledge of but would just as soon not need to come to your conclusion that it's not a project worth supporting and even boycotting. And you say no good deed goes unpunished? yes, indeed, how true it is. You have clearly illustrated this adage. You're so clueless that you don't even realize how insulting you can be. Further, you have no concept of how you come across to others. You've demonstrated that publicly. Feel free to express your opinions publicaly and I'll do the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Shandrow To: Slau Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: Re: wow, what an insult Hey Jerry, Glad to see you listening and reading the journal. :-) Unfortunately, due to requests for a number of changes Jeff felt the need to take down the accessible means to download the song, thus this avenue is no longer available to us. PMN is currently inaccessible, both in use and registration. Those are the facts. Jeff made a way for us to get the song and to report back on who was downloading it. That was extremely fair. That method had to be taken down. Little or no consideration was given to the hours Jeff spent setting it all up in the first place. In any case, there is no insult intended here. There is no other way for podcasters to freely download the song for play on their podcasts other than PMN, which is still inaccessible. I'm disappointed and upset with you for some things surrounding the project, and I have a right to publicly express my displeasure. Everything I am saying is based on the facts, including the fact that this is not an official UNICEF project officially endorsed by that charity, so we have no way of knowing, 100 percent certain, where the proceeds will go. Facts. Sorry. Especially due to the accessibility issues, I feel completely free to make sure all the facts are obvious for everyone, as well as to discourage others from playing this on their shows. Lesson should be learned next time to make sure the needs of your blind brothers and sisters are correctly and completely accomodated in all that you do. Whenever that is not the case, you may expect flack from accessibility evangelists such as myself. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slau To: Darrell Shandrow Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: wow, what an insult Wow, how insulting that you would be dissappointed in my accommodation for blind persons to download a broadcast copy of the Podsafe for Peace song. I actually went out of my way to make sure it was available through Jeff Bishop's site. You've obviously not considered the fact that people with no podcast feeds were downloading the song. What kind of sense is that? Downloading a song for free that's supposed to be a fund-raiser? Thanks a lot.