Re: [music@podshow.com: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users]
- From: Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:51:53 -0700
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Yes, I'm sure there's strength in numbers.
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 07:43:55AM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> We at Blind Access Journal just wrote a follow on letter to C.C. asking for
> more accessibility to PMN. Maybe, in addition to the live demo and other
> efforts, if he hears from more than just one or two blind users asking for
> accessibility, it may move accessibility up the priority list just a tad.
> Thanks for your PMN podcast; it may just have served to get a ball or two
> moving in a positive direction.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [music@xxxxxxxxxxx: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users]
>
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> >Well, I'm curious too. This is probably one of my bigger efforts to
> >drive for greater accessibility where the owners or operators write back
> >as quickly as they did here. I just hope the momentum can pick up and
> >keep going. Follow-up will be paramount here. I wanted to point out
> >how it is usable in places and not a complete loss and that we are
> >"trying to use" it but demonstrate the problems at the same time. It's
> >like I show him that we put up some effort and now we need some help
> >from his end and that we're not seeking a hand-out or whatever. That's
> >partly why I thought my show would be an excellent way to point those
> >things out. I think that would have been nearly impossible to document
> >in an e-mail. Here, he gets to hear with his own ears what we heard
> >with our own ears this weekend:).
> >
> >Frankly, I may be quite interested in how this all goes from a broader
> >point of view. This might turn out to be one hell of an experiment. I
> >wonder how many other times someone could demonstrate to a developer the
> >problems with accessing their product with a live demo of their
> >respective adaptive technology.
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 07:04:39PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> >>Hi Steve,
> >>
> >>This is great! I hope it leads somewhere. I've found that it is quite a
> >>bit easier to obtain platitudes than it is to get real action. I'll be
> >>interested to see how your approach works. Please keep us updated.
> >>
> >>
> >>Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
> >>Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
> >>A+, CSSA, Network+!
> >>Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> >>Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> >>another person.
> >>Blind Access Journal blog: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:38 AM
> >>Subject: [music@xxxxxxxxxxx: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users]
> >>
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> >>>Hey, I sent a brief message to CC Chapman of the Podsafe Music Network
> >>>probably an hour or so ago and I got his response which I'm forwarding
> >>>to the list in case you're interested. This is a first step; Here's
> >>>hoping for continued progress in this area.
> >>>
> >>>- ----- Forwarded message from Podshow Music Network
> >>><music@xxxxxxxxxxx> -----
> >>>
> >>>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:56:56 -0500
> >>>From: Podshow Music Network <music@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: "'Steve Holmes,,,'" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Subject: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users
> >>>
> >>>Thank you very much for forwarding this along. I'm definitely going to
> >>>listen to it (downloading now) and will forward it to our developers as
> >>>well.
> >>>
> >>>I appreciate the support and also the constructive feedback which helps
> >>>out
> >>>everyone.
> >>>
> >>>C.C. Chapman
> >>>Manager, www.podsafemusicnetwork.com
> >>>Host, www.accidenthash.com
> >>>Host, www.uturncafe.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>- -----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Steve Holmes,,, [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:33 AM
> >>>To: music@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users
> >>>
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> >>>Hi C.C.,
> >>>
> >>>I'm the blind guy who signed up a few weeks ago and enjoy your site so
> >>>far.
> >>>I did discover some fairly large hoops to jump through while playing
> >>>tracks.
> >>>Actually, I performed a demonstration of how us blind people can use the
> >>>site with commonly used Windows screen reader technology and spoken
> >>>output
> >>>on my most recent podcast. I accomplish two goals with my show;
> >>>1 - Show the world how us as blind people can nogotiate about the web
> >>>and
> >>>in
> >>>particular, the Podsafe Music Network web site.
> >>>
> >>>2 - Draw attention to some of the difficulties that blind users can
> >>>currently run into with the PMN site.
> >>>
> >>>To get more details, I invite you to listen to my most recent episode of
> >>>the
> >>>HolmesGrown Solutions Podcast at
> >>>http://www.holmesgrown.com/podcasts/HGSA-2005-10-28.mp3 for the direct
> >>>link
> >>>or http://feeds.feedburner.com/holmesgrown for the RSS feed.
> >>>
> >>>Sorry for the length of the show but I would hope that this program
> >>>might
> >>>help morph Podsafe Music Network into a site that is even better than it
> >>>currently is.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the time.
> >>>
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