If you are interested there is a demo on www.BlindCoolTech.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: WINDOWS OR MAC? APPLE SAYS BOTH > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > Admittedly my experience with the mac is what I could gleam while in one > of the Apple stores playing around with Voice-Over and my lack of > knowledge of how to use it effectively. Dispite my limitted exposure, I > could not get Itunes to work at all and given that Itunes is one of > Apple's flagship programs, I was disppointed. I also tried Mictosoft > Word that they had on the computer and about the only thing I could work > in either of those was the menus. It was either in the Apple store or > the podcast I heard last summer with Our Jeff Bishop, Shelly Brisben and > Jerry Halliton that the Carbon framework was not accessible but stuff > written in cocoa framework would be much more compatible with Voice > Over. > > Like others on this list have been saying, Voice Over has a ways to go > but I honestly don't think they are off to a bad start at all. I mean, > how long did it take for the Windows screen readers to mature? If > Voice-Over can do it inside a couple years, well... > > Still, I sincerely hope Apple is planning to grow this product. If they > just sit on it like Microsoft has done with Narator, then Apple will be > no better than Microsoft except for giving people false hopes. Apple > has introed with anice product. I just it keeps growing and improving > with time. I would bet that within ten years, it could run huge circles > around the windows products! > > On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 01:58:37AM -0700, BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net wrote: > > can you tell me, what limitations, you "KNOW" of and not limitations > > that you "HEARD" of. > > BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net > > blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > website: http://blindtechs.net > > Visit our website where we offer free email, shell accounts, > > shoutcast radio service, online games and more! > > Powered by Unix not Microsoft > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > > > > >Well, now all that's different is the hardware. But my question > > >is, what makes mac hardware so much better than Windows stuff? > > >I do have to admit that i like the idea of just being able to walk > > >up to any computer, hit a hotkey and have a screenreader. I've > > >never been a mac geek, but I do have to say I'm impressed with the > > >idea. Now all they need to do is make it a *true* screenreader, one > > >that is as powerful as JAWS and Window-eyes. Right now, it is good > > >but there are still limitations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 02:20 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote: > > >>600 is quite a bit? > > >>BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net > > >>blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>website: http://blindtechs.net > > >>Visit our website where we offer free email, shell accounts, > > >>shoutcast radio service, online games and more! > > >>Powered by Unix not Microsoft > > >> > > >> > > >>On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > > >> > > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>>Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >>> > > >>>Actually I would be much happier if it were to go the other way - > > >>>run > > >>>Mac OS X on generic Intel machines. I would love to run the Mac > > >>>OS on > > >>>my currently owned windows box. In fact, if Voice over gets just a > > >>>little bit better, i would love to scrap winblows entirely and just > > >>>run > > >>>the Mac and Linux partitions instead. But to buy a new Mac from > > >>>start, > > >>>that would set me back quite a bit. > > >>> > > >>>On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:21:45PM -0400, Jerry Halatyn wrote: > > >>>>Windows will run natively on Intel-based Macs so,k yes, you can > > >>>>install > > >>>>JAWS or any other Windows screen reader or screen access software. > > >>>>Very > > >>>>exciting development. > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:27 PM > > >>>>Subject: Re: WINDOWS OR MAC? APPLE SAYS BOTH > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>I assume that we could potentially load jaws on to the Mac and > > >>>>>use it with > > >>>>>XP, and then play with voiceover every now and then. > > >>>>>Allison > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>>- -- > > >>>HolmesGrown Solutions > > >>>The best solutions for the best price! > > >>>http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>>Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > >>> > > >>>iD8DBQFENXvgWSjv55S0LfERA7p6AJwP2FtmfkItKdfvKYlYd7YQoqRHwACfaBPH > > >>>zLstf2XZEDdfWgU4HtSHy+0= > > >>>=qSuH > > >>>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEOnjAWSjv55S0LfERA64QAKCG9Y4szHKOx8nc7AlSfZccEwX28gCdEHEC > TP1i3pqqoh2LiliivXzUy6k= > =+FzW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/306 - Release Date: 4/9/2006 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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