you mean.....
once vista comes out and locks you all out, you wished you would have
considdered it.
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On Apr 8, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
and when a company can't even make their own app work with a screenreader that they produced, something's messed up. So this argument that the Mac is better simply, does, not, work with me. I'm sorry, i know we have a few mac faithful among us and if y'all like it that rocks. But for me, it still hhas a long way to go. If I bought a mac now, without using the bootcamp program which, if I'm told correctly takes a bit of time and know-how to set up, i'd be taking a step backwards in accessibility. I've been spoiled by the beautiful access of the windows screenreaders. Once Bootcamp comes out of beta and is easier to set up, if at all, then I may consider it.
At 09:23 PM 4/8/2006, you wrote:Hi Gabe,
The lack of iTunes accessible, while not job critical, does serve to represent the company's unwillingness to insure that its own apps are accessible with its own screen reader.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net" <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: WINDOWS OR MAC? APPLE SAYS BOTH
itunes? important?
You got to be kidding me. and how different do you see apples accessibility framework from microsoft's msaa or jaws and window eyes needing standard windows controls?
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On Apr 8, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
Hi Gabe,
When I questioned an Apple rep at one of the CSUN presentations, even she didn't know what to say when I brought up the weak application support in VoiceOver, other than it is the app's responsibility to support VoiceOver. We all know how well that's going to work. She couldn't tell me much about Apple's total lack of support in VoiceOver for such important built-in apps as iTunes, either. Very disappointing.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net" <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: WINDOWS OR MAC? APPLE SAYS BOTH
can you tell me, what limitations, you "KNOW" of and not limitations that you "HEARD" of.
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On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
Well, now all that's different is the hardware. But my question is, what makes mac hardware so much better than Windows stuff?
I do have to admit that i like the idea of just being able to walk up to any computer, hit a hotkey and have a screenreader. I've never been a mac geek, but I do have to say I'm impressed with the idea. Now all they need to do is make it a *true* screenreader, one that is as powerful as JAWS and Window-eyes. Right now, it is good but there are still limitations.
At 02:20 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote:600 is quite a bit? BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx website: http://blindtechs.net Visit our website where we offer free email, shell accounts, shoutcast radio service, online games and more! Powered by Unix not Microsoft
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
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Actually I would be much happier if it were to go the other way - run
Mac OS X on generic Intel machines. I would love to run the Mac OS on
my currently owned windows box. In fact, if Voice over gets just a
little bit better, i would love to scrap winblows entirely and just
run
the Mac and Linux partitions instead. But to buy a new Mac from
start,
that would set me back quite a bit.
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:21:45PM -0400, Jerry Halatyn wrote:Windows will run natively on Intel-based Macs so,k yes, you can
install
JAWS or any other Windows screen reader or screen access software.
Very
exciting development.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: WINDOWS OR MAC? APPLE SAYS BOTH
I assume that we could potentially load jaws on to the Mac and
use it with
XP, and then play with voiceover every now and then.
Allison
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