Re: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow

  • From: Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:04:21 -0700

Hash: RIPEMD160

Congrats Darrell,  Good on you mate (As Jonathan would say):).

I hope you will let us know whenever you need additional help or input
when filing those bugs:).  I think the best way to tackle some of these
accessibility issues would be to break down a list of items and focus on
them one at a time.  I don't mean single thread so much but identify
them as individual action items and perhaps some or many of us can take
these on one at a time as individuals and prepare examples or
demonstrations in audio form or what have you and send it to appropriate
individuals at Podshow.  It sounds like you could almost carve out a
position there and be identified as a "Accessibility Archatec" or
something similar.  It would be like a system archatec or lead database
administrator in other work settings.  I see a lot of potential here.

I personally would like to expound further to CC Chapman or one of his
programmers concerning the music network and pay specific attention to
the graphics used to play selections and the labeling of image links in
the PMN web site.  Those two things alone, I think, would salve 90
percent of the accessibility issues with the PMN.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:46:16PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Mac,
> What we may really need is a tutorial for blind beginners to podcast 
> listening.  Unfortunately, as an accessibility evangelist, I just don't 
> personally have enough time and resources to do this, but there are a 
> number of others, Jonathan Mosen?,  who might be able to help?  I really do 
> wish I could do more, but it is absolutely critical that someone make all 
> this stuff accessible!
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
> Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
> A+, CSSA, Network+!
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mac Norins" <macatack5@xxxxxxx>
> To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >Gary,
> >
> >What did you think I meant about this?  I was simply saying that some of 
> >us
> >do not have all of the expertise and haven't followed all the threads (and 
> >I
> >mean ALL of them) that we might need, to know what is happening with
> >podcasting and the like.  I have listened to a lot of stuff on Main 
> >Menu,on
> >Mosen's site, on some tech podcasts, but I still need to get a regimen in
> >place; for instance-- how to latch onto RSS URells and how to use the News
> >Gator, when I have used Outlook Express but not Outlook, etc., etc., etc.
> >So, when I say that this stuff sounds like an"inside job", where, on a
> >public list people are talking about stuff that they know, I get 
> >frustrated
> >and don't want to sound ignorant; does this make sense to you? I totally
> >agree that this accessibility issue is slowly (unfortunately) being 
> >solved,
> >but, let's try to tell each other what is going on, whenever we can!  It 
> >was
> >just a turn in the road, where I thought it was time to sound off!!
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Mac-
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Gary Wood" <k8hlx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:49 PM
> >Subject: Re: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >
> >
> >This doesn't sound anything but good for us!
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >
> >
> >>Mac
> >>
> >>Like Jeff said, it's very simple. darryl went to the Podcast portable
> >>expo, where many podcast producers and listeners are going, and spoke to
> >>Adam Curry and many of his associates about better accessibility for
> >>podcasting in general, and the podsafe music network, in particular. I
> >>can't possibly make it any simpler than that.
> >>This is going to be great, because now Darryl, a blind person, will be
> >>able to offer feedback to Podshow about how to make things more 
> >>accessible
> >>for everyone involved.
> >>
> >>At 01:48 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote:
> >>>Jeff, it is not that simple, for newbies; what podcasts would give a
> >>>history
> >>>of all of this?  You assume that everyone is on the same page, by making
> >>>that comment, that it is really simple, don't you?  You are not always
> >>>playing to the choir, in this realm, you know; does this make sense to
> >>>you?
> >>>I mean, I know you are busy, but, really, some of us need to have some
> >>>info
> >>>on how to do this-- you cannot hold all the cards!
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>-Mac-
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:37 AM
> >>>Subject: RE: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Well, it is simple really.  Darrell went to the podcast expo conference
> >>>and
> >>>met with Aaron and Adam and talked about accessibility, and this is the
> >>>result <smile>.
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
> >>>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:35 PM
> >>>To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: Re: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >>>
> >>>Jeff,
> >>>
> >>>All this inside info; could you take some time to explain what is going
> >>>on?
> >>>
> >>>Mac Norins
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:46 AM
> >>>Subject: Darrell Shandrow makes huge inroads with Podshow
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Darrell Shandrow makes a huge leap with Podshow at the Podcasting
> >>>conference
> >>>this weekend.  On today's Daily Source code Adam Curry mandates a
> >>>"accessibility effort" with podshow HQ.  Direct access will be given to
> >>>the
> >>>bugzilla database to track accessibility issues.
> >>>
> >>>All I have to say is, great job Darrell!!!
> >>>
> >>>With Andrew G also joining podshow, this is nothing but awesome!  Expect
> >>>to
> >>>see changes folks.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you Adam, your awesome!
> >>>
> >>>Darrell may also be on TWIT this week with Leo.  Let's all hope Leo has a
> >>>good contact with Google and Yahoo to make a difference.  Darrell did
> >>>speak
> >>>at length with Yahoo at the conference and it looks like they have a
> >>>better
> >>>understanding of issues surrounding accessibility.
> >>>
> >>>Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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