My goodness, all those children and grandchildren. Your life sounds like an all
American novel or an old fashioned technicolor moving picture!
Miriam
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<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
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Exactly so. But I want to make the point that I am merely stating my feelings,
not making judgement calls. We're all complex Beings...at least I think we
are, and I would not want to be rejected simply on one or two actions from my
past. Hopefully we each revolve and grow and become better people. What I
have little patience for are the people who believe they have all the right
answers.
Cathy and I are about to head for Gig Harbor, about an hour and fifteen minutes
away, to pick up our eldest grand daughter Grace, 13 years old. Grace had
attached herself to Grandma Cathy, and sweet talks her way to regular visits.
Renae and Brian also have an 11 year old, rather shy daughter who is beginning
to think maybe she'd like to spend some time with Grandma Cathy, too...alone.
Lillian has night terrors, so spending a night away from home, alone, might be
a few years away. Then there is Elizabeth, the happy 6 year old bubble of
shear joy and happiness. She actually snuggles up to Grandpa Jarvis.
But when she sees the doll cake that Cathy and Grace plan to make...well, she
just might rethink her position. Renae is our youngest, and she also has
Joshua, from an early "relationship". Josh just finished a hitch in the Air
Force, and lives with his maternal grandmother nearby.
Our eldest grandson is going to be 39 on July 8. I remember when I thought 39
was Old! His brother is 29, and they are both the sons of our eldest daughter,
who could be the poster child for America's perfect Grandma/Mom.
Our son had one boy, and eight year old who is the first right handed male
Jarvis in four generations. Our son also has a step daughter and a step son.
Anyhow, we're about to head off to pick up Grace and buy her a golf bag to put
her golf clubs in. Cathy and our son-in-law Don, gathered together a
collection of clubs for Grace. Already, at 13, she is an expert on golf...and
on baking...and on and on and on, just a spitting clone of her mother at that
age.
Carl Jarvis
On 5/24/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I guess that you're right. I mean if one approves drone murders all
over the Middle East, I guess that means that one holds the people in
all those countries where the drones are attacking, in contempt. And
the whistle blowers? Surely, he didn't care about them or the
principles for which they were sacrificing their careers. But of
course, that was his consuming ambition. He had no principles if they stood
in the way of his career.
Miriam
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<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 1:47 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: repost
I was thinking of two different situations. I think I recall that he
invoked the espionage 8 time, including on journalists, and of course,
he continued the illegal wars and the murder of thoousands of innocents.
Besides, I came to believe that Obama was every bit as much a liar as
was Clinton. Two Democrats who turned their backs on the Working
Class, and in so doing caused unnecessary suffering.
Gotta run and see Cathy's mother, and run our JCCB meeting, so if I
misspelled anything, forgive me.
Carl Jarvis
On 5/24/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
Which people do you think Obama held in contempt? I guess one could
say that in his ruthless ambition, he used people, but I don't think
that he held any particular group in contempt. It may be that he
thinks that most of us are less intelligent than he, which is
probably true. I always felt like he was talking down to us when he
addressed the public. But then, given the way people are allowing
themselves to be manipulated, maybe he's correct. But I don't think
he looked down on any particular racial or religious group and it
seems like he always treated women respectfully.
Miriam
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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 12:03 PM
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That's funny! When I turned 13, mother took me to the washing
machine and said, "Carl, meet our washing machine". That year I
learned to do my own laundry, make my own breakfast and pack my own
lunch. Back then we also ironed many of our clothes, so I learned that
skill, too.
When I convinced Cathy to take up residence with me and my two
youngest children, four and six at the time, I was determined that
she never think that I was looking for a babysitter and housekeeper.
I did my, and for some years, all of the family laundry. Even now
Cathy and I take care of our own wash.
But I remember those days when women began to rise up in the 70's.
So long overdue. But here we are, watching the White Boys trying to
reassert their control over women. And what troubles me most is just
how many women are suckered in. For me, it's as simple as saying, "I
will not support a person who thinks that grabbing a woman's pussy is
acceptable".
This whole idea that our leaders can disrespect people and still be
considered worthy of our praise is out of my ability to understand.
Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Regan, Carter, Ford, Nixon,
Johnson, Kennedy, Truman, and Roosevelt. All the presidents holding
office during my lifetime have held some or all people in contempt.
While I can respect a president for certain acts, I have no respect
for any of them as individuals. They had the skills to rise to the
top of the pile, but that does not mean that they were good for the
nation. This sort of leadership has brought us to our present sad
state of affairs.
The System is broke and needs fixing.
Carl Jarvis
On 5/23/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And in fact, that memory of your's, reminds me of this. After I
began attending a women's consciousness raising group in , perhaps,
1970, I asked my six year old daughter to straighten her bed in the
mornings.
All she had to do was pull up the sheet and blanket and smooth them
out. I did that because it seemed to me that everyone in the
household, should be doing some of the chores, that I shouldn't be
doing everything in that house, all of the time. My husband,
however, was absolutely horrified, and what he said to me was,
"That's ridiculous! Next, you'll be asking each of us to do our own
laundry and I draw the line at that!"
Miriam
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<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran
Bailey (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 3:39 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: repost
Carl, that comment about the never ending laundry just brought back
a bad memory. Never having been a man concerned with being macho I
once found myself in the position of taking care of an apartment and
a child while the mother went to work. It didn't effect my male ego
a bit, but that laundry detail really was never ending. It seemed
like an every day and all day chore. I don't know how I managed to
do the vacuuming, getting the little girl off to school and other
sundry jobs for all that laundry. Somehow doing it for myself only
has always been a much less daunting task.
---
David Hume
??? In our reasonings concerning matter of fact, there are all
imaginable degrees of assurance, from the highest certainty to the
lowest species of moral evidence. A wise man, therefore, proportions
his belief to the evidence. ???
??? David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
On 5/23/2019 2:55 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Boy Abby, you scratched some long buried attitudes in the dark
cellar of my mind.
The world today may be a mess, but at least it seems to be in a
state of flux...and could go in the direction of becoming a better
place in which to live.
But back when my life standards were being formed, what a black and
white world it was. Not only Racially, but attitudinal. And it
seemed to me, looking back, that so much of what I believed was
simply absorbed without my being aware of it. Taboo subjects like
Sex, formed volumes of information and misinformation
without my knowing where it came from. My feelings about "Queer"
people came from Outer Space, because no one ever discussed the
subject. And of course, what I thought I knew about blindness was
absorbed by osmosis, and was mostly a jumble of misinformation and
misconceptions and old wives tales...maybe a few old husbands
stories, too.
Of course I grew up during WW II, and our American Propaganda
machine ground out very negative images of "Japs" and "Krouts".
Still, it was only a few years until I realized that I was still
reacting to make believe images.
And of course, this was still the age of a man being, "Master of
his domain". Fortunately I was raised in an "equal opportunity" family.
My parents proclaimed that there were no such things as boy's jobs
and girl's jobs. There was, however, children's work. My two
sisters and I did lots of the support jobs, like setting the table,
clearing and washing the dishes, putting them away and sweeping the
floor and taking out the trash. My parents took the job of
supervising. Dad was responsible for having the kindling and coal
laid out for the morning fire, while mother prepared the meals,
rose up early to build the cook stove fire, and along with our
help, to do the never ending laundry. Mother also did the shopping
and did the "deep" cleaning.
She also went to business college and then on to a job. While a
great amount of the day to day work fell on mother, dad also took
classes in order to move up the economic ladder.
As a visually impaired boy, I was cut no slack. In fact, I never
thought of myself as having a disability...just heavy bifocals.
Anyway, it was the age of the Macho Male, and I bought into the
whole mystique. Young men "took" a wife unto himself. Women were
still seen. without actually saying it, to be the property of their
husbands.
A great deal has changed, but we can't afford to lose hard gained
ground. Women are being pushed down by the White Male Masters, and
unless women fight back, it means hard times ahead once again.
Carl Jarvis
On 5/23/19, abby <aevincent@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I hope this isn't true for young women. I was raised to accept
that my destiny depends on attachment to men. I needed to find a
man to marry and
support me if I'd be a good wife. My job I get to "fall back on"
depends
on being submissive to a male boss. Even Oberlin, the first
college to admit women, didn't totally disabuse me of this idea.
I got my first job before I got a husband. When I had a
miscarriage, my now ex was angry that I didn't "give him a son ". That
did it! .
Abby
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Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:04 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] repost
I responded to Roger's post, but was informed that my message was
not delivered. Sorry if this is a repeat, but I really have
strong feelings over the whole anti abortion attack on women's rights.
Carl Jarvis
*******
Not since the Pilgrims set up shop on the Shores of the "New
World", has there been such an all white male takeover. What I
can't get my head around is how many women either support, or
allow, this total control over their lives by their self-appointed
White Masters.
The power to confuse and misdirect by our All White Male Oligarchy
is evident in its ability to herd the American People away from
the life threatening issues of today, and set up phony Straw Men.
Where is the passion condemning the ruthless murder of hundreds of
thousands of people around the world, supported by our drones,
bombs, and financial support? If the life of a fetus is so
important, why isn't the life of a young soldier who is gunned
down fighting a senseless war? Are we really going to mill about
mindlessly while children...entire families...starve to death
because of our uncaring disdain?
This morning I heard a woman weeping over the death of her young
son, following a bombing, because she could not move to try and
help him.
She lay, unable to move, while he cried and begged her to help him.
He died during the night.
And people can ignore that, and fight for the life of an unborn fetus?
If it were my body, I'd know which one I would protect.
Carl Jarvis
