Dick,
You are a very lucky man if you feel that things are not getting worse. For
a majority of people, things are getting worse. But if you are one of the
lucky ones for whom this isn't true. I'm happy for you.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. E. Driscoll Sr
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 3:41 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: petition, gun control
Miriam:
May I interject. Over the years when a Republican is in office the
Democrats voice the opinion that the end of the world is near. On the other
hand when a Democrat is in office the Republicans voice the opinion that the
end of the world is near. So far it has not happened. Sometimes it gets a
little better or easier and sometimes it gets a little worse or harder. So
far the end of the world has not come and for some this time around it is a
lot better, for some it is somewhat better for a great many it has not
changed for some it is somewhat worse, for some it is much worse and for
some it is an absolute disaster.
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.
On 10/3/2015 11:10 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Mee too, only I signed the petition because I'll compromise in hopes
that
things might improve a tiny bit. On Thursday, Carlos was here,
supposedly
upgrading my computer and bringing me a new battery backup. Well,
actually,
given reality, that never happened, but that's another story.
Anyway, we got
into the pereneal quandry , or the debate that those of us on the
left find
ourselves in as the Presidential Elections come closer. Carlos, as a
young
Puerto Rican man living in the Bronx, was a member of the Young
Lordrds
which, in case you haven't heard of it, was sort of the counterpart
of the
Black Panthers. But now he's a homeowner, father of two adult
children, and
an administrator of the Office for the Disabled at one of New York
City's
community colleges. He votes Democratic. I told him why I can't
bring myself
to vote for Clinton. He talked about what would happen if we had a
Republican President and republican majorities in the House and
Senate. I
said that perhaps he might want to take what Chris Hedges has to
ssay about
all of this, to heart. He said. "Look, Chris Hedges is a
millionaire. He can
say whatever he wants to say. He doesn't have to worry about making
a living
and paying all of the everyday expenses for housing, food, medical
insurance, et cetera". I replied that when we condemn the Germans
for not
fighting the Nazis, perhaps we should remember that they were also
making
pragmatic decisions about their lives and safety. And as I said to
him, I
can see both points of view, the idealistic long term view and the
one which
involves how to make life a bit better for us right now, to try to
hold onto
limited safety while we can.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl
Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:28 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: petition, gun control
At present, guns represent the ultimate in individual control. Guns
give us
confidence that we can keep ourselves and our loved ones safe.
I suppose that in a peaceful society guns would play a role in
protecting
citizens against the few social rebels. But in a society that is
becoming
evermore violent, guns become part of the problem, not a deterrent,
but a
cause.
The petition I would sign has not been written. Nor will it be
written by
such a basically violent people. We simply can't have our Peace and
keep
our Guns.
but we are a nation built upon violence. We murdered and took what
we
wanted from the people who already lived in this Land. We brought
our
Slaves, Indentured Servants and the Downtrodden from around the
World, and
put them under our Boot and forced them to create the Wealth that we
love to
claim as our own. But we keep on trying to pretend, and to hold
onto the
very things that are destroying us. I would ban all weapons. Sorry
if that
means someone can't go out and kill a young Buck, or blow birds out
of the
sky. Some sports should be banned.
But there I go, acting as if there are folks who really do want
Peace.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/3/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
Sandy Hook. Columbine. Red Lake, Minnesota. Essex, Vermont.
Lancaster.
Aurora. Virginia Tech. How many more innocent victims must
die at the
hands of an antiquated and oft-misinterpreted amendment?
Enough.
It's time to stop the violence.
Gun control doesn't have to mean no guns. I'm not suggesting
we take
guns away. I'm suggesting we put tighter controls on
acquiring and owning
them.
Gun show loopholes must be stopped. Ammunition should not be
sold online.
Mandatory wait periods should be enforced, during which time
a
thorough background check, psychological and medical
evaluation, and
character references should be completed.
More accountability should be placed in the hands of
retailers. When
patrons refuse wait periods, authorities should be notified.
Training
and testing should be mandatory, as should a renewal process
that
includes many of the above-mentioned evaluation terms.
Gun owners and non-gun owners need to come together and
agree on
regulations that protect the right to own a firearm for
sane,
responsible adults and keep them out of the hands of the
mentally
unstable.
I would hope that we could all agree to submit ourselves to
these
terms when it's easier to go to a gun show and pick up a
firearm than
it is to go to the local pharmacy and buy cold medication.
Acquiring
and owning a gun should be at least as controlled as getting
a
learner's permit, license, and privilege to drive a car.
Gun control alone is not the whole of the solution, but it's
a start.
And if it keeps guns out of the hands of even one mentally
unstable
person and saves one sweet life, it's worth it.
That's why I signed a petition to The United States House of
Representatives, The United States Senate, and President
Barack Obama,
which
says:
"How many more senseless and entirely preventable shootings
have to
occur before we do something about gun control?
As a citizen and constituent of this great country, I am
asking that
you take a firm stand and make a positive change by
restricting access
to guns and saving lives."
Will you sign the petition too? Click here to add your name:
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/gun-control-now-1?source=s.fwd&r_by=1
126864
Thanks!
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