Abdulah,
We've been deceived for so long a time that we seem to be like a
barnyard full of chickens, clucking and running this way and that.
My advice is to stay true to that which you know is right. I do fear
for all Muslims and for all who do not fit the Mold of the Empire.
As for Dick's thought, remember the frogs sitting in the pan of water
that was slowly coming to a boil? We will be long gone before we know
that our world came to an end. Republican, Democrats and All.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/3/15, abdulah aga <abdulahhasic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi
Carll and miriam,
I don't want sine this,
because, why have control,
why they are don't make profile of people who is criminal?
I want to askt each ofe you, how can buy gun men who have criminal history?
how can go and get permit az hanter men who was problem and who spend mosly
time in prizren,
USA othoryty know all that jus
right know thay are hiding something.
Why we don't have history of men who did what he did in Origon?
2 day ago fox news try to say that he is muslim or convert in islam
jus father of girl who's name Anna and who was in class that day tell what
she hear.
He say that he ask for religen and if some body say that he or she crischen
he say soon you will meat god and
keald them.
So in that poent fox news from 2 day ago say than what is he?
poent like he is maby muslim or mugahidin.
How can one TV do it with out panishment?
how one TV news could make so big propaganda?
no body didn't told them stop do it this is not tru,
iven if he was Muslim he couldn't say for moment you will meat god,
that would bee sine that he don't belive in god.
-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:10 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: petition, gun control
Mee too, only I signed the petition because I'll compromise in hopes that
things might improve a tiny bit. On Thursday, Carlos was here, supposedly
upgrading my computer and bringing me a new battery backup. Well, actually,
given reality, that never happened, but that's another story. Anyway, we
got
into the pereneal quandry , or the debate that those of us on the left find
ourselves in as the Presidential Elections come closer. Carlos, as a young
Puerto Rican man living in the Bronx, was a member of the Young Lordrds
which, in case you haven't heard of it, was sort of the counterpart of the
Black Panthers. But now he's a homeowner, father of two adult children, and
an administrator of the Office for the Disabled at one of New York City's
community colleges. He votes Democratic. I told him why I can't bring
myself
to vote for Clinton. He talked about what would happen if we had a
Republican President and republican majorities in the House and Senate. I
said that perhaps he might want to take what Chris Hedges has to ssay about
all of this, to heart. He said. "Look, Chris Hedges is a millionaire. He
can
say whatever he wants to say. He doesn't have to worry about making a
living
and paying all of the everyday expenses for housing, food, medical
insurance, et cetera". I replied that when we condemn the Germans for not
fighting the Nazis, perhaps we should remember that they were also making
pragmatic decisions about their lives and safety. And as I said to him, I
can see both points of view, the idealistic long term view and the one
which
involves how to make life a bit better for us right now, to try to hold
onto
limited safety while we can.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:28 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: petition, gun control
At present, guns represent the ultimate in individual control. Guns give
us
confidence that we can keep ourselves and our loved ones safe.
I suppose that in a peaceful society guns would play a role in protecting
citizens against the few social rebels. But in a society that is becoming
evermore violent, guns become part of the problem, not a deterrent, but a
cause.
The petition I would sign has not been written. Nor will it be written by
such a basically violent people. We simply can't have our Peace and keep
our Guns.
but we are a nation built upon violence. We murdered and took what we
wanted from the people who already lived in this Land. We brought our
Slaves, Indentured Servants and the Downtrodden from around the World, and
put them under our Boot and forced them to create the Wealth that we love
to
claim as our own. But we keep on trying to pretend, and to hold onto the
very things that are destroying us. I would ban all weapons. Sorry if
that
means someone can't go out and kill a young Buck, or blow birds out of the
sky. Some sports should be banned.
But there I go, acting as if there are folks who really do want Peace.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/3/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,them.
Sandy Hook. Columbine. Red Lake, Minnesota. Essex, Vermont. Lancaster.
Aurora. Virginia Tech. How many more innocent victims must die at the
hands of an antiquated and oft-misinterpreted amendment? Enough.
It's time to stop the violence.
Gun control doesn't have to mean no guns. I'm not suggesting we take
guns away. I'm suggesting we put tighter controls on acquiring and owning
Gun show loopholes must be stopped. Ammunition should not be sold online.
Mandatory wait periods should be enforced, during which time a
thorough background check, psychological and medical evaluation, and
character references should be completed.
More accountability should be placed in the hands of retailers. When
patrons refuse wait periods, authorities should be notified. Training
and testing should be mandatory, as should a renewal process that
includes many of the above-mentioned evaluation terms.
Gun owners and non-gun owners need to come together and agree on
regulations that protect the right to own a firearm for sane,
responsible adults and keep them out of the hands of the mentally
unstable.
I would hope that we could all agree to submit ourselves to these
terms when it's easier to go to a gun show and pick up a firearm than
it is to go to the local pharmacy and buy cold medication. Acquiring
and owning a gun should be at least as controlled as getting a
learner's permit, license, and privilege to drive a car.
Gun control alone is not the whole of the solution, but it's a start.
And if it keeps guns out of the hands of even one mentally unstable
person and saves one sweet life, it's worth it.
That's why I signed a petition to The United States House of
Representatives, The United States Senate, and President Barack Obama,
which
says:
"How many more senseless and entirely preventable shootings have to
occur before we do something about gun control?
As a citizen and constituent of this great country, I am asking that
you take a firm stand and make a positive change by restricting access
to guns and saving lives."
Will you sign the petition too? Click here to add your name:
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/gun-control-now-1?source=s.fwd&r_by=1
126864
Thanks!
