Joe, the caartridges are very easy. If you call A P H or Perkins, you can
order cartridges and the accompanying USB cord on the phone. I think Perkins
sells cartridges of different sizes. A P H has the 4 gig cartridges. There's
no tax. They're 800 numbers. I think it's easier than going to the store and
they're incredibly easy to use. My braille note says you can use a Kingston
third generation thumb drive(B3) and a Data Travel thumb drive. It also
mentions a USB elbow connector 16(I). That comes from the BARD Talk list,
but I have no personal experience with any of it.
Miriam
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Explains a lot. Amazing as I've used the device for years and just didn't
know the other thumb drive port was there. Never got on a bard list or
anything like that.
But, now I know why my battery blows out so quickly. I've returned a few
players and the Braile library says nothing about the battery life, but
that they've had problems.
Anyway thanks. I've not used it so much lately for books as my time is
consumed. But I do play a lot of mp3 files of recorded meetings on the
player.
And I have bent one thumb drive over the years putting it in the side port.
I never botherred with the cartridges as I've always downloaded books from
the beginning on this old pc and then just transfer them to the thumb drive
as a player.
I would like a stream however, but mostly for recording.
Anyway thanks for the info.
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do what is best for yourself.
If you feel along the lip just above the cartridge slot you will find
a small dent. That corresponds with the position of the USB port in
the cartridge slot. Bear in mind that getting a thumb drive in there
may not be real easy. Even with that dent you may have to fish around
for it a bit. It also works better if you have thin fingers. I don't
have especially thin fingers and I do it all the time, but it is
obvious that it would be easier if my fingers were thinner. I started
out with a 16 gig drive that I had no trouble getting in there. Then I
found a really good deal on a 32 gig drive and I bought it just in
time because my 16 gig drive broke. It had a switch on the side that
slid out the USB connector and it was that switch that broke. My new
drive turned out to be physically smaller and it was hard to get in
the slot. I managed to do so, though, but then I had a problem getting
it out. The old one came right up to the lip, but this one was buried
deep in there. The only way I could remove it was with a pair of
pincers. Then something hit me. The drive had a small handle on it and
I threaded a bread wrapper twist tie through it and that worked just
fine to get it out. Before I thought of that I had resigned myself for
a while to having to use the side port. One thing I like about using
it in the cartridge slot is that nothing sticks out and so there is no
danger of accidentally breaking it off. I will say, though, that since
I got that physically smaller drive they have been getting smaller and
smaller. If you get one that you just can't reach the USB port with
you will have to use the side port and that has the disadvantage of
using the battery faster. Also, if you have arthritis in your fingers
or other dexterity problems putting it in the cartridge slot may not
be an option for you. Let's face it. The cartridge slot simply was not
made for thumb drives. But then, pocket knives were not made to be
used as screwdrivers, but I have used them for that many times. Again,
you just have to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of each method and
On 5/24/2016 4:24 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:is not necessarily for everyone.
Wow. I didn't know you could put a thumb drive in the cartridge port.
Where about is that located within the cartridge mouth so-to-speak?
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I share your perplexity as to why some people need massive amounts
of storage space to store talking books that they never can have the
time to read, but there are other uses for a thumb drive that the
cartridges can't be used for. Also, a four gig thumb drive is going
to be a lot cheaper than a DTBM cartridge and is easier to get. It's
easier to just pick one up at the checkout line in the grocery store
than it is to order them from some specialty company for the
inflated prices. As for the battery problem, that is only if you use
it in the side port. I use my thumb drive in the cartridge port and
it uses no more battery life than a cartridge. Of course, a
cartridge is a lot easier to get in and out of that port. and if you
have dexterity problems it is probably the better choice. Also, a
thumb drive with a large capacity will sit there and beep for a very
long time before you can start listening. That is certainly a
disadvantage. What it comes down to is that there are advantages and
disadvantages to both choices and you have to weigh those advantages
and disadvantages before buying. Personally, I use a thumb drive, but it
On 5/24/2016 3:00 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Cartridges are a lot easier. They don't use up all that extra
battery life.
They sell 4 gig cartridges. Why anyone needs more than that, I
can't imagine. It costs something like $12.
Miriam
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For that matter, you don't even have to buy a blank cartridge. You
can just pick up a thumb drive at the checkout lane of your grocery
store.
Of course, some thumb drives work better with the machine than
others, so it would be a good idea to get some advice on which
brand to buy on the BARD Talk list.
On 5/24/2016 9:24 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
If you download the daisy audio version of the Bookshare book, andcomputer from various places like A P H.
if you know how to open the zip file and transfer the book to a
cartridge, you can hear the book on the NLS player. I use the
humanware companion software to transfer the book to the cartridge.
You can buy blank cartridges and the thing that attaches them to
your
Miriam
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Hi
I have no idea how you would listen to Book Share books on the
Talking book player. I love that I can just stick the Stream in
my pocket and head out.
Marsha
