I don't know what you mean by whether this world is organized. Humans by
their conscious action have organized many things. Natural processes
have brought about order in many things and that is some times called
organization by some people. However, if the question refers to some
supernatural entity then there is no evidence of that. There are plenty
of claims of it, but so far not the slightest bit of evidence has ever
been discovered.
On 8/1/2017 11:55 AM, Bob Evans wrote:
I understand how material life has formed your way of thinking.
I just want to ask you:
Is this world organised?
On 7/30/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whether it exists in western culture or not is moot. I suppose everyone
deserves a certain amount of respect just for being a human being. Then
they can earn more respect by being willing to ggive respect. And, by
the way, keeping people captive on your email list despite the fact that
they keep asking you to remove them is far from giving respect. But
ideas deserve no respect in the first place unless they earn that
respect by at least making some kind of rational sense. Nonsense is
nonsense and religion is nonsense. That is why I don't think any
religion anywhere in the world deserves any respect. It is simply
detrimental to humanity.
On 7/29/2017 11:38 PM, Bob Evans wrote:
Point is, the west doesn't respect religion, that's it.
I don't care whether someone converts, reverts or does whatever he wants.
Just don't falsely promote the respect of all religions, because this
is obviously, doesn't exist in western culture.
On 7/30/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am officially the moderator here, but ever since I set up this group I
have been intentionally not moderating. In fact, I have stated in the
group description that anyone can say anything in this group. However, I
have gotten some complaints about a certain person who has been posting
here lately and have even been asked to remove him. I have also been
asked to not debate with him. Personally, I happen to think that is fun
up to a certain point. I say up to a certain point because I am sure
that I would eventually tire of it. But I am very loathe to remove
anyone or to censor anyone, even someone who unethically holds people
captive on his own list. Let me make a suggestion though. There is
another venue where religious debates are welcome and it was even set
up especially for religious debate and such debate is encouraged. It is
the Christian Atheist Debate Central on Facebook. I would like to invite
anyone who wants to try it out to sign up for it. You do need a Facebook
account to participate, but if you do not have a Facebook account it is
pretty easy to set one up just by going to Facebook.com and following
directions. You do not need an elaborate account with friends and
pictures and all the things that Facebook is famous for even though you
might want to use it for things like that in the future. A bare bones
account will do just fine. Even though this group is described as a
Christian Atheist debate group other religions are represented there
too. In fact, the most common religion that people post about that is
not Christian is Islam. The rules state that no one is to try to
convert, but that is done anyway all the time. Frankly, I find it hard
to see how the theists can even participate without trying to convert.
The group is pretty high traffic, but since it is not an email group you
don't have to worry about it filling up your in box and you can follow
just the threads you want to follow. I will have to admit that because
of time constraints I follow only a minority of them myself. Since
Mustafa likes so much to try to convert people I think he might
especially enjoy it because there are scads of both Christians and
atheists there for him to work on, but he should expect that they will
fight back too. I suppose he is used to that though. I will say that
unfortunately there are a lot of atheists there who think that a debate
consists of name calling, but there are other atheists who are very
willing to use reasoned debate and want to teach something too. I am
going to provide a link to the group. I don't know if this will work if
you don't have a Facebook account, but if you do and if you are signed
in it should take you right to the group where you can sign up. Here is
the link: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1672216343098897?refid=27
