Well, if we transport ourselves back to the 1930's, there was a very strong
wing of the Democratic party called the Dixicrats and they had support, a lot
of it, from white Southerners. Now you can repeat again how white Southerners
were manipulated into thinking as they did by the ruling class, and that may or
may not be true. After all, we have seen the human propensity to mistrust those
who are different. But however the white southerners became what they were,
they had influence in the Democratic Party. And there were the Republicans who
were strongly opposed to all of FDR's economic measures. His measures meant
spending huge amounts of government money to employ people. So, given the
country as it existed, he did what he thought he needed to do in order to get
them instituted. I'll add that even within his administration, there were many
people who didn't feel that black people should benefit from many of the
demonstration projects or other programs. They believed that since black people
were accustomed to privation and white people were not, the help should go to
the white people. I don't think that racism can be explained away by class
theory.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:28 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: more from the Eleanor Roosevelt book
Miriam,
Yes, it's interesting. But rather than talk about what the Nazis thought about
FDR, I'd rather talk about why so many of his initial good ideas never came to
be. One of the things I have had to unlearn is that our two party system,
along with the division of power between Judicial, Congress and the President,
makes certain that we continue to be free, and do not wander down a wrong road,
ending in Tyranny.
What I now think is that compromise works to the advantage of the Ruling Class.
As we've seen, the Ruling Class can give a little when it needs to, and can
take it back when the opportunity is right.
During our nation's history, we've seen good times and we've seen bad times.
That is, "We" if we're among the Working Class. The members of the Oligarchy,
the Elite Ruling Class, seldom have "bad times".
I know I had some other profound thoughts to splatter across the page, but
after a break, I have no idea what they were. Our son and his partner left
us(me) some Maple Nut Ice-Cream when they headed home.
James had plans to gobble it down on his way out, but Amy slapped his hand and
said, "naughty, naughty. Leave some for your Dear Old Dad."
What a girl! So I am headed for the freezer and then to watch Jeopardy.
Good night!
Carl Jarvis
On 5/29/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's a tidbit that I just heard on The Tel Aviv Review. This came
from an interview with a historian from, Harvard or Yale, can't
remember which, who has just completed a book about the American
concepts which the Nazis used in building their system for handling
citizens and those people who were unworthy of citizenship. Hitler and
his associates were very positively impressed with FDR because they
saw him as a strong leader who could become an effective dictator if
the situation permitted. They liked some of the federal programs that
were set up like the NRA because these programs were set up without
congressional approval and because they used effective propaganda to convince
the public to support them. Interesting, huh?
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:47 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: more from the Eleanor Roosevelt book
William Randolph Hearst employed a fellow by the name of Francis James
Westbrook Pegler, who wrote under the name of Westbrook
Pegler(pronounced
Peggler) As the years passed, Pegler began to attack FDR and Eleanor
Roosevelt. I recall reading hateful articles by Pegler long after FDR
was dead.
" He denounced the civil rights movement and in the early 1960s wrote
for the John Birch Society, until he was invited to leave because of
his extreme views."(from Wikipedia)
In 1962 Pegler lost his contract with King Features Syndicate(owned by
Hearst), because of his attacks on Hearst Executives.
Westbrook Pegler was my "Go To Guy" anytime someone told me that the
American Press was Liberal.
Carl Jarvis
On 5/29/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The original plan was for universal social security. Everyone at
birth would be enrolled in the plan. There would be a federal
government contribution with funds coming from a sales tax. Henry
Morganthal, (secretary of the
treasury) and the Southern senators disagreed. They proposed a system
based only on contributions from employers and employees that would
omit poor black people. This funding system differed from all the
European social security systems. Also, FDR initially proposed
universal health care insurance which he quickly dropped under
pressure. 65 senators were in favor of the US joining the World
Court until Hearst propagandized against the plan in his papers and
told citizens to send telegrams to their senators and representatives
opposing it on the basis that the US would be giving up its
sovereignty.
Miriam
