gree. "the reason given for impeachment is inadequate."
Why? Because regardless of the reason, impeachment will solve nothing
at all. Yes, I do believe that Donald Trump has "earned" the right to
face impeachment. Yes, I believe that Donald Trump is unstable. Yes,
I believe that he is corrupt, self serving, a womanizer, a
narcissistic bully and more. But some of those who sit in judgement
of Donald Trump are cut from the same cloth, and serve the same
Master. .
Even if Donald Trump goes to excesses, at the core he is just another
of the "good old boys". Although I do not oppose impeachment, nothing
will change, fundamentally. In my entire 84 years there has never
been a president who was not under the spell of the Ruling Class. Nor
a Congress. The Establishment never gave up control. Even under
duress in the 30's and 40's, FDR made changes on behalf of the
Establishment by convincing the Ruling Class that in order to survive
they must give back some of their gains. Since 1932 only two
presidents have taken measures that provided relief to the Lower and
Working Classes: FDR and LBJ.
Today all indications are that the Great American Empire is falling in
on itself, and there is little we, the Working Class can do to prevent
it. If we try, and many have, we are attacked by the bully boys of
the Establishment, and jailed for all the reasons that should be
calling us Heroes.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/12/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So I see impeachment differently and I have mixed feelings about it.
I accept that we are living in an unfair, degraded corporate system, but
here it is. Given the history and culture of the US and the financial and
military power of the ruling elite, I sincerely doubt that this system will
be overthrown by a peaceful or not so peaceful, socialist revolution. It's
more likely to be taken over by the Fascist Right. However, impeachment is a
recognized means for bringing to justice, a public official who has
completely disregarded the norms and rules of government. From the day he
took office, Trump did that in terms of his implementation of racist
policies, his public statements which incited people to violence, his clear
disrespect for recognized norms and rules, his blatant use of his office to
enrich himself and his family, his installation of family members in
government positions for which they weren't qualified, and his demonstrated
disrespect for a free press. There were his manipulation of funds to pay off
women who might damage his reputation, his use of a private security force
in addition to the secret service, all kinds of stuff. I just don't think
that those things should have been allowed to proceed without immediate
moves to stop him, and that would either be impeachment or removal from
office because of mental incompetence. Neither Republicans nor Democrats
would do what obviously had to be done, because of political reasons. The
Democrats chose, what they thought would be, a more acceptable path, but
which was obviously stupid. Now, it's just too late and politically dumb,
and again, the reason given for impeachment is inadequate.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 1:23 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Why working people shouldn’t join the liberals’
impeachment crusade
Commenting on the below article. I am so glad that the Militant published
this article making it clear that they do not support Donald Trump in any
way. These articles expressing disdain for the impeachment drive have been
making me very uncomfortable. I could see that they were not expressing
support for Trump, but I was afraid that it was not clear to everyone and I
can't blame Virginia Wilkinson for thinking that the Militant did support
Trump. It really seemed to be coming close to that.
I am not a supporter of impeachment myself. The reasons given here for not
giving impeachment our support are legitimate enough, but in my case I just
don't see it as our fight. It is a question of squabbling among the
bourgeoisie and if Trump is impeached or if Trump is removed from office it
really doesn't effect the rest of us all that much. I don't see that Mike
Pence would be any better than Trump. But having disdain for the impeachment
drive is a far cry from supporting Trump. I can only say that I would really
like the Militant to make that as clear?? in every article about that
subject as it does in this article.
https://themilitant.com/2019/11/09/why-working-people-shouldnt-join-the-liberals-impeachment-crusade/
Reply to a reader
Why working people shouldn???t join the liberals??? impeachment crusade
??By Terry Evans
Vol. 83/No. 42
November 18, 2019
In a letter to the Militant?? reader Virginia Wilkinson says she started
reading the paper for its good labor coverage, but cannot ???sympathize with
your support for Donald Trump, who has shown no signs of genuine support for
working people.???
But the Militant?? has never offered one ounce of support to the president.
For 90 years since it first came out, the Militant?? has never backed any
Democrat, Republican or other capitalist politician. And there is no
question Donald Trump ??? a real estate mogul ??? rules for the propertied
class.
The Militant?? campaigned in every 2016 issue for Alyson Kennedy, the
Socialist Workers Party candidate for U.S. president, and urged workers to
break from the two parties of capitalist rule, the Democrats and
Republicans, no matter who they nominated.
The paper???s headline that Wilkinson cites ??? ???Liberals Drive to Oust
Trump Built on Fear of Working Class??? ??? accompanies an article that
explains, ???All wings of the Democratic Party, like Trump and all the
Republicans, defend the interests of the country???s capitalist rulers at
home and stand ready to wield Washington???s military might to advance their
interests abroad.??? And the Militant?? champions battles by labor and all
those oppressed and exploited against the bosses, their politicians and the
government in power that serves them, including Trump???s.
But there are crucial questions for working people in opposing the campaign
of the liberals and their craven media that seek to overturn the 2016
election. Their real target is the working people who voted for Trump, or
who couldn???t bring themselves to vote for any of the bosses???
candidates.
This includes millions of workers Hillary Clinton called ???deplorable,???
who were looking for a change from what successive Democratic and Republican
administrations have done to aid the bosses in their assaults on workers.
These attacks have not let up during the so-called economic recovery that
followed the 2007 financial crisis. Millions were drawn to vote for someone
like Trump, who stood outside the factions of both bourgeois parties, and
who demagogically claimed he would halt the carnage facing working people
and ???drain the swamp??? in Washington.
The liberals ??? who have backed the capitalist rulers??? drive to boost
profits whenever they???ve been in office ??? think they???re entitled to
???regulate??? and control the lives of the rest of us, especially those who
don???t vote the way they think we should. Democratic Congressman Al Green
says the reason Trump must be impeached is to prevent people from reelecting
him.
Rising fear of working people
Liberals along with the ruling rich have a rising fear of working people.
They fear us because growing numbers of working people recognize that the
bosses and their parties have no solution to the crisis of their system that
doesn???t involve making workers pay. This has made more workers open to
fighting declining living and working conditions and to discussing an
independent working-class political road forward.
The capitalist rulers fear coming working-class struggles ??? battles in
which our confidence in our own capacities will grow, as we acquire
consciousness of ourselves as a fighting class with interests in common with
other workers worldwide.
The Militant?? tells the truth about the methods used by the liberals in
their witch hunt of the president that are dangerous for the working class.
These include using and praising Washington???s political police, the FBI
and CIA; grand juries and secret star chamber ???hearings???; and hearsay
claims from secret witnesses you have no chance to confront or refute.
All these are features of the capitalist ???justice??? system that???s
regularly used against workers. But in this case it involves an effort to
impeach and indict a capitalist politician who was elected to the
presidency. They???re taking steps to limit the franchise to prevent us
???voting the wrong way.???
They trample on constitutional protections working people have fought for???
from the Bill of Rights to the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the U.S.
Constitution conquered in the second American Revolution. These are crucial
to protect our ability to discuss and act in our own class interests without
government disruption. The anti-Trump ???resistance???
sets precedents to be used against fighting workers and opponents of
Washington???s wars as the crisis of capitalism deepens, as the rulers have
done time and time again.
Opposing the liberals??? drive to oust the president can???t be equated with
giving him one iota of political support. Working people have nothing to
gain from relying on the bosses, their parties or their government, and
everything to win by organizing ourselves independently of them to fight for
our own class interests. Jealously guarding our hard-won rights is a
cornerstone of working people???s line of march forward.
In This Issue
Front Page Articles ???Asarco strike deserves support of all workers
???US-Chinese rulers??? rivalry grows despite new trade deal ??????Break
from bosses 2-party system, build a labor party???
???New book ???The Turn to Industry??? boosts fall ???Militant,??? book
drive ???Why working people shouldn???t join the liberals??? impeachment
crusade ???California blackout, fire show need for workers control of power
companies
Feature Articles ???Iraqi protests grow, demand halt to Tehran???s
interference ???Socialist Workers Party 2020 campaign program
Also In This Issue ???As competition heats up, retail bosses tell workers,
???Speed up???
???DC meeting: ???US hands off Cuba and Venezuela???
???UK election: ???Workers need our own political party???
???Fight continues to keep last abortion clinic in Missouri ???Israel
protest: ???Don???t deport Filipino classmates???
???Courts back two capitalist parties??? ballot monopoly ???After GM workers
settle, workers at Ford debate, vote on new contract ???Fall Campaign to
sell Militant subscriptions and books (week 4) ???Socialist Workers Party
Fund Drive (week 4)
Books of the Month ??????Communism is not a doctrine, but a movement???
25, 50 and 75 years ago
Letters
?? Copyright 2019 The Militant?? -?? 306 W. 37th Street, 13th floor -?? New
York, NY 10018?? -?? themilitant@xxxxxxx
Cookies
This site uses cookies to improve your experience. Learn more.
Okay, thank
--
---
David Hume
??? In our reasonings concerning matter of fact, there are all imaginable
degrees of assurance, from the highest certainty to the lowest species of
moral evidence. A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the
evidence. ???
??? David Hume,
