Well, if history is any indication, the establishment of Communism so far has
also not been able to escape the establishment of a new ruling class, meet the
new boss, same as the old, well, different from the old, but the same, too...
On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:37 AM, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Carl, that is only half the battle, because the working class is capitalistic
as well. We need to put capitalism to rest in its entirety, not just shift
resources back to the working class which will foster a new ruling class.
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Frank
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:54 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] Who should rule — capitalist
bosses or the working class?
I'll need to read this article more carefully later. But off the top of my
head, where most of my babble comes from, I'd say that first we need to
return all the property and money taken from the working class(all those
whose labor has been seized by the current ruling class).
Then, once that task is accomplished, all of us will rule all of us.
So we'd better get busy and decide just what that sort of government would
look like.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/15/16, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://themilitant.com/2016/8031/803102.html
The Militant (logo)
Vol. 80/No. 31 August 22, 2016
(front page)
Who should rule — capitalist bosses or the working class?
BY MAGGIE TROWE
The two crisis-wracked parties of capitalism and war in the U.S. — the
Democrats and Republicans — and their candidates Hillary Clinton and
Donald Trump are tearing into each other, debating whether “America is
great” or needs to be made “great again,” while presenting no
proposals to create jobs or meet other burning needs of working people.
At the same time, Socialist Workers Party members and supporters are
campaigning on workers’ doorsteps and in their living rooms,
discussing how the deepening capitalist depression is an unfolding
catastrophe for workers and farmers and how we can unite to defend our class
interests.
Members of Communist Leagues in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the
United Kingdom are doing the same.
Addressing the faltering U.S. economy Aug. 8, Trump noted that the
number of workers the government counts as members of the labor force
is at the lowest point in four decades and proposed a package of
pro-business tax cuts that would boost profits, claiming this would
increase production and jobs. The previous week Clinton promised
“millions of jobs with rising incomes.”
But many capitalist pundits — in articles such as Robert Gordon’s New
York Times Aug. 8 op-ed “Can Clinton or Trump Recapture Robust
American Growth?” and Neil Irwin’s Aug. 6 Times article “We’re In a
Low-Growth World. How Did We Get Here?” — acknowledge that no policy
can solve the worldwide contraction of capitalism. “It increasingly
looks as if something fundamental is broken in the global growth
machine,” Irwin writes.
Both capitalist candidates say they are dedicated to assuring the
military and political supremacy of U.S. imperialism. While President
Barack Obama and Clinton argue that Trump is too unstable to be
trusted with Washington’s foreign policy, Trump hammers away at
Obama’s legacy of eight years in office with the U.S. government at
war somewhere in the world every day of his administration. Many
workers say they’re dismayed by both capitalist candidates.
David Rosenfeld, SWP candidate for U.S. Congress in Minnesota, and
supporter Rose Engstrom met Jose Rosas, a call center worker, at his
trailer home in Owatonna, Minnesota, July 24. Rosas liked what they
had to say. Two weeks later he attended an Aug. 6 public campaign
meeting in Minneapolis to hear Osborne Hart, the party’s vice-presidential
candidate.
Rosas, 24, agreed things need to be changed. He said he was disturbed
by the dog-eat-dog values of capitalism. “There must be a better way
for people to live,” he said. “They talk as if we are all in a bucket
and have to step on each other to get out, to get ahead.”
While touring Minnesota, Hart was interviewed Aug. 7 by Jeremy Jones,
a reporter for the Hutchinson Leader. Jones talked with Hart for two
hours at the Happy Hour Cafe in Glencoe, an hour west of Minneapolis.
Hart explained that the Socialist Workers Party campaigns going door
to door in working-class areas, in towns large and small, in city and
countryside, and gets a good response in all of them. When Jones
expressed doubts about the kind of response the Socialist Workers
Party is receiving, Hart and supporters started talking with June and
Marlen Wichelman, who were having coffee at a table nearby.
“Socialism? Hadn’t considered that,” Marlen Wichelman said. “Well,
there has to be something better than those two running for
president!” June Wichelman replied. They wished Hart luck in the campaign.
Later Hart spoke with farmer John Worm, who was selling corn at a
stand in Glencoe. “I’m a Trump supporter,” Worm told Hart, adding that
he didn’t like the word “socialism.”
When Hart said the Socialist Workers Party is a working-class party,
Worm pointed out that Trump’s rallies are big because working people
come out for them.
“Yes,” Hart replied, “because he talks about unemployment and some of
the problems workers and farmers face. But he doesn’t raise answers to
those problems.”
“You’re right about that,” Worm said, and listened when Hart spoke of
his discussions about the capitalist crisis and the example of the
Cuban Revolution with small farmers in south Georgia. Worm took a
campaign flyer and got a copy of the Militant, saying, “Now I have
something to read and think about.”
Before going to Minnesota, Hart toured in Nebraska, speaking at
campaign meetings at Meadowlark Coffee and Espresso in Lincoln and at
the Malcolm X Memorial Foundation in Omaha. Eleven people who had
never heard of the Socialist Workers Party came, discussing the need
to build the party to help lead workers and working farmers to take
political power.
Jacquie Henderson in Minnesota and Joe Swanson in Nebraska contributed
to this article.
Related articles:
Socialist Workers Party: Join Sept. 8 miners rally! SWP tells miners
‘Our party is your party’
SWP builds Sept. 8 protest in West Virginia, Kentucky Working people
in Utah welcome SWP campaign SWP campaigns in Tennessee, condemns US
wars abroad Contribute to Socialist Workers Party’s $30,000 campaign
fund!
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