Just like Mussolini.
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I’ll say it flat out…Trump is an idiot…now don’t get me wrong, he’s sly, he’s
shrewd, he’s cunning, he has honed his instincts to a fine point, you know,
kind of like a shiv. But intelligent? No evidence yet of that, IMO.
On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:18 PM, R. E. Driscoll Sr <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Alice:
I believe that you are indicating that Bernie is of a higher intelligence
level than Donald. If this is the case I would like you to know that I agree
with the conjecture.
My children have complained that I am too formal in my signing of these
'billet- doux' and I should shorten same. So here goes.
Richard
On 3/29/2016 9:41 AM, Alice Dampman Humel wrote:
No, it’s not the word alone, it’s the way in which it is used. If Trump
uses a plural pronoun, or when he says “folks,” he is most definitely talking
not about “us,” but as, OK, I’ll bite, a king not using the royal we, but
rather handing down dicta to his loyal sheep followers. Like when he said,
aren’t Trump rallies, fun, folks?
Sanders has made it very clear what he means when he uses the first
person plural pronouns, we, us, our…he has explained that we’re all in this
together, that we must seek to unite, not to divide, and so on.
He has also made it very, very clear that the major contributing factor
to the state we’re in is income inequality, the stranglehold Wall Street has on
everything, Citizens United which makes everything connected to how much money
influential people and groups and corporations have to throw around, and so on.
I know that may not be “socialist” or “Marxist” or whatever else anyone wants
to put in that blank, but it is the only step in that direction any of them has
taken. The whole lot of the rest of the candidates are in the same Wall Street
and corporate pockets. So, while I do not look at Sanders as the big savior,
the knight on the white horse who is going to fix everything, with or without
his “us,” I think he deserves a chance, because he’s not back in down, he’s not
engaging in empty platitudes, he’s really put it on the line over and over
again. And, BTW, somebody mentioned the “yes, we can” chants of the Obama
campaigns. That was a “we” used by the crowd, not by Obama in speaking of what
he would do.
Alice
On Mar 29, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It would be presumptuous of me to say, "We" when expressing a personal
opinion. But Sanders, Clinton and Cruz are speaking for their
Political Partners, and the We they use is meant to be all inclusive.
If any of them become King or Emperor, it will not be because they
say, "We". It will be because the American Working Class has allowed
them to seize power. I think that it's funny, seeing folks get all
lathered up over the use of one word or another, as if that shows us
everything about them and their intentions.
The use of words like, "We" or, "I", are not the issue. the threat of
our Oligarchy becoming overthrown by a Strongman, like Donald Trump.
King Donald. Or perhaps the Second Coming with Lord Ted Cruz
representing God, the Father and His son Jesus Christ and their silent
partner, the Holy Spirit, rests upon our heads. "We" have the
collective power to change the course of history, if "We" are willing
to step up and take responsibility for our future. And by the way, at
least when Cruz says, "We", it's understood just who he means.
But I digress.
The problem is not in the word, "We". The problem is that the
Corporate Capitalist System is not even pretending to serve the needs
of the Working Class, the majority, the backbone of America. It
doesn't matter who "we" send into that Oval Office, so long as the Two
Headed Monster holds power, representing its Master, the Ruling Class.
On our recent trip from Washington, through Oregon and California, on
our way to Sun City, Arizona, and back again, I heard almost no
Progressive programming. One station carried Thom Hartman. Lots of
preachers calling for Jesus to intervene and lift the heavy burden
from the shoulders of the suffering poor. Lots of sports chatter.
And of course, Mike Savage and Rush Limbaugh wove their hate around
the radio networks. But how are people going to make "Informed"
choices if they have no information upon which to act?
So as much as we want someone we can dump our troubles on, the real
problem is each of us. It's all of us who buy the smoke and mirrors
being pumped into our heads by the Empires Pied Pipers. We point to
our Second Amendment Rights to "bear arms", being threatened by
"creeping socialism".
We cry out against public ownership of our schools and public lands,
claiming that government bungles the management that could be run so
much more efficiently by the Private Sector. We hide behind bolted
doors, fearing the takeover of our cities by Persons of Color, with
their drugs and whores and violence. We are frightened thinking of
the coming invasion by those feared Muslims who have been sneaking
into our Free Land for years, waiting to force us to pray to Allah.
We have become so frightened and mistrusting of one another that we
encourage our CIA and FBI access to our private conversations. The
list is endless. We are cowed by the power of the Ruling Class, and
we don't want to admit it. So we blame anyone and everyone for our
troubles, when the solution is within our own heads. At some point we
must set aside the Ruling Class and begin the process of educating our
Working Class, and build a true representative government. But we
need to bring positive energy, rather than fear and negativism.
Can "We" do it? Only if each of us takes responsibility for our own
lives. Then, whether it is, "I" or, "We", the new People's government
will rise up out of the ashes.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/29/16, Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Right. King Bernie, complete with crown and scepter.
On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender
"rogerbailey81" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You very rarely hear the word I from a monarch either. It is always
the
royal we.
On 3/27/2016 7:20 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
But how many of “we” will be sacrificed on his way to greatness?
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alice ;
Dampman
Humel
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[blind-democracy]
RE: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] SWP: Workers need to
organize
independent of, bosses’ parties
but that has been one of my points…you very rarely hear the first
person
singular pronoun from Bernie, it is always “we.” So he will not be
marching into the jaws of the dying, corrupt system alone to be
devoured
by it. We will all be marching with him, and even that system can
not
devour us all, gulp, I hope…but we all know it, led by the 1% is
going to
try...
On Mar 27, 2016, at 1:42 AM, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Take heart, Frank.
We did not get into this mess overnight. Despite the power of the
American Empire, there is an awakening among rank and file
Americans.
But the road to reason is a steep, rock strewn road. Bernie
Sanders
is certainly not our "great white knight", but he does hold open
a few
doors of opportunity to improve our present life. Still, we
cannot
expect to send one man, no matter how well intentioned he might
be,
into the jaws of a dying, corrupt system. The monster will
consume
him, as it always does.
In fact, our Savior is not some bigger than life hero. Our
Savior is
each of us. So, my fellow Savior, hang in there and keep looking
for
those opportunities to spread the light and the hope for a quiet
end
to the Dragon.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/26/16, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl, as I have, perhaps cynically, have asked much in the past
48 hours
...
how? I'm afraid old chap that I feel handicapped, emasculated, and
abandoned. Even my own primary vote, that last piece of
empowerment that
I
had appears now to be rejected by someone who turned their back
on me and
my
state. Worse still after reading that interview with Sanders
where even
he
admits to having no specific plan to deal with the right wing
other than
to
call for the public to rush in with some sort of nondescript
revolution
and
save him , indicates that we are all as emasculated as I feel this
weekend.
Frank
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Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:34 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] SWP: Workers
need to
organize independent of, bosses’ parties
Here's more proof, as if we need any, that the Ruling Class'
propaganda is effective. There can be no other explanation as to
how
working class men and women draw back from organizing independent
labor
unions.
In disasters such as floods, fires, or tornadoes, we all drop
what we're
doing and rush in to lend a hand.
But when we, and our neighbors, are watching our jobs go
overseas, our
dollars purchasing less and our children being burdened in debt
for
their
education, we stand around and say, "there's nothing we can do
about
it."
Well there is. We can declare a National Disaster and drop what
we're
doing
and rush in to help ourselves and others out of this growing
oppression.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/26/16, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
http://themilitant.com/2016/8013/801303.html
The Militant (logo)
Vol. 80/No. 13 April 4, 2016
(front page)
SWP: Workers need to organize independent of
bosses’ parties
Militant/Don Mackle
“No capitalist party has solution to world economic crisis,” Mary
Martin, left, SWP candidate for Washington governor, told Keith
Fiorino and Ashlynn Kolidakis at Seattle Sanders rally.
BY SETH GALINSKY
Socialist Workers Party candidates across the country are joining
protests against police brutality, walking picket lines with
fellow
workers, campaigning door to door, and engaging in discussions
with
workers about the need to organize independently of the capitalist
class. Those who agree with that perspective should join the
Socialist
Workers Party.
Mary Martin, SWP candidate for governor of Washington, campaigned
with
supporters among thousands of people at a March 20 rally for
Bernie
Sanders in Seattle.
Many of those she spoke with were interested in her view that
working
people need to learn from the example of the Cuban Revolution and
of
the need to take political power out of the hands of the
capitalist
class.
“A lot of what you say is true but I don’t think the American
people
are ready for real socialism,” said Keith Fiorino, 28, a musician.
“Don’t you think that Sanders is basically going in the right
direction?”
“None of the capitalist politicians have solutions to the grinding
effects of the world economic crisis on working people,” Martin
replied.
“The working class is the only force that is capable of fighting
for
our own interests. That’s why we need a labor party based on the
unions for workers to have an independent voice.”
Dave, a railroad worker and union member who didn’t want to give
his
last name, said he knows about engineer Tom Harding, who is facing
frame-up charges for the 2013 oil car train crash in Lac-Mégantic,
Quebec. “They say he didn’t set enough brakes, but once the fire
crew
cut out the brake lines, the cars were going to roll,” Dave said.
“I
don’t think it was his fault.”
“Workers need to have control of safety on the job,” said Martin.
“We
need to use union power to stand up against frame-ups of Harding
and
others.”
Shavon Hayes, a public transit bus driver and member of the
Amalgamated Transit Union, was glad to hear Martin had joined
some of
the bus drivers’ informational picket lines protesting split
shifts
and lack of breaks.
In an indication of the interest in the communist alternative, 15
people bought copies of the Militant, two subscribed and two got
copies of The Cuban Five Talk About Their Lives Within the US
Working
Class: “It’s the Poor Who Face the Savagery of the US ‘Justice’
System,” one of several books campaign supporters are using in
discussing what way forward for working people.
Sam Manuel, Socialist Workers Party candidate for U.S. Senate in
Georgia, joined Felicia Thomas, Delisa Davis and dozens of others
at
the Smyrna, Georgia, City Council meeting March 21 to protest cop
brutality and the promotion of officer Kenneth Owens to
lieutenant.
Owens fatally shot Thomas’ son Nicholas in the back while the
23-year-old was at work at a tire shop a year ago. Davis’ brother
Kevin died Dec. 31, 2015, two days after being shot by a DeKalb
County
cop in his apartment after calling 911.
“For Owens to be promoted is like spitting in my face, rewarding
him
for killing my child,” Thomas told Manuel.
“The Socialist Workers campaign in Georgia and nationally will be
a
voice for all those fighting to oppose killings by cops,” said
Manuel.
Supporters of Eleanor García, SWP candidate for U.S. Senate,
joined a
March 19 protest in Bakersfield, California, against killings by
the
police.
“García has been a part of the fight against police brutality, as
well
as standing up against deportations,” SWP campaign supporter Laura
Garza told the crowd. “She will be discussing the fights here as
she
joins the nurses striking at Kaiser in Los Angeles, the port
truckers
and workers demanding a raise in the minimum wage. We can
strengthen
our fights by joining others standing up.”
California’s Secretary of State informed García March 17 that she
will
be on the ballot for the June primary.
Janice Lynn in Smyrna, Georgia, and Bill Arth in Bakersfield,
California, contributed to this article.
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