And that reminds me, Sylvie, those war-time news reels showing the
Russian troops greeting the Americans with big hugs and kisses on each
cheek. Strange behavior to a 10 year old boy, steeled in the ways of
proper behavior.
I recall some years later when my older sister married an Italian
fellow. Ernesto liked to get right up in my face when he talked. We
did that strange dance where he moved in and I moved back.
It was not until I was over 40 that I began to learn how to hug.
Actually, closer to 50. My boss, Shirley Smith, said I hugged like a
stick. I was the only male assistant director. There were two other
assistants and the Director. All huggers. I went home and told Cathy
I would need some serious training. I hadn't realized how seldom I
hugged my own wife.
Carl Jarvis
On 12/14/15, S. Kashdan <skashdan@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Carl and all,
It certainly is true that people grow up with all sorts of stereotypes.
Reading your post, Carl, it reminded me that in the area where I grew up it
was quite acceptable for all women to hug and kiss each other in public and
private, even those who were definitely not queer. This was true among East
Europeans, jews and non-jews, Italians, Puerto Ricans, Caribbean Islanders,
and even Koreans. I remember as a teenager holding hands and hugging my
girlfriends as we skipped along in the street on our way to double-dates
with our boyfriends. Once a man yelled at us, "lesbians!" and we almost fell
over laughing... And many of the boys and men from Eastern and Southern
Europe regularly hugged and kissed friends and relatives on the cheeks. Some
men from Spain are very emotional about poems and romantic stories. They are
called llorón, crybabies and, romántico, romantics who cry easily, whether
young or old.
So stereotypes are also very diverse.
For justice and peace,
Sylvie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 6:51 AM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: bible in cover of a Quran
It seems that there are many subjects that we grow up simply knowing
all about them. At least all we think we need to know. Many folks
know that God exists because...well, they just know. Many folks call
Him by different names and will die to defend Him.
I grew up during the 30's and 40's. No one ever told me a thing about
Queers and Lesbians. But when I saw men mincing about, or women
hugging one another and kissing in public, my blood boiled. These
people were of no threat to me. I knew nothing about them. Where did
I get my so called information? Not from my parents.
When I learned that I was going to be blind the rest of my life, I sat
down in total defeat. I knew that blind people had to be taken care
of. My life was over. But I had never had one single class in
Blindness 101. Where did these notions come from?
I simply knew that girls were the weaker sex. They were very
emotional and dependent upon us stronger men. No one taught me such
gibberish. Where did it come from? Negroes were simple minded folk.
Happy and go lucky, dancing and eating fried chicken and watermelons.
Mexicans and Filipinos were sneaky, and not to be trusted to fight
fair. Chinese were wise and worked hard and stayed to themselves.
Same with Japanese. Everybody had their special place, and it all was
in my head without my ever questioning how it came to be.
In Sunday school I was taught to accept God, the Perfect Father. To
my childish mind there really were two people created by God. And
Noah really built a boat big enough to house two of every creature on
Earth. And the Planet was only 5,000 years old.
I was encouraged to hold onto these impossible beliefs even in the
face of proof to the contrary.
Anyway, if we are contented to go on believing what was programmed
into us from early on, go for it. Frankly, I believe we have
something called, The Ability to Reason. Our beliefs should be able
to stand close inspection.
Carl Jarvis
On 12/14/15, abdulah aga <abdulahhasic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi
email what I get with religion's subject I jus ignore them and delete,
I don’t read them, what I could learn from them, I don’t want that some
one
who know
who know from where want to take advance of me,
I am inaf smart even I am sure more that that people who send that email
about religion,
they are want jus take advance of us and then use for them on purpis,
but with me and my nolage knop:
I am smart inaff about that topic
how much I need and education my self for religion how much I thinks I
need,
but not how much some body als thinks.
From: joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 6:48 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: bible in cover of a Quran
And they represent a pure, so-to-speak, form of Christianity which I
respect.
Though I don't believe in it I do respect it.
And they trully practice what they preach.
----- Original Message -----
From: Martian.Lady
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:30 AM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: bible in cover of a Quran
HI Joe
In general, I agree with you. The group of women priests is a very
different group. Although I don’t agree with all they do they come
close.
They accept everyone who comes to them. They use the “All Inclusive
Bible”.
I’ve never seen such a loving accepting group. They have sent me
E-Mails
with anything that needs to be read.
Marsha
