[blind-democracy] after 2 years white house finally responds

  • From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:38:14 -0700

In the words of my old Grandpa, "Mister President would need a whole
lot of starch in his BVD's in order to stand up for this one".
President Obama considers himself a great compromiser. Well, I think
he's getting snookered left and right. Isn't there anyone who can
clue him in?
Carl Jarvis

On 7/29/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Froomkin writes: "The White House on Tuesday ended two years of ignoring a
hugely popular whitehouse.gov petition calling for NSA whistleblower Edward
Snowden to be 'immediately issued a full, free, and absolute pardon,'
saying
thanks for signing, but no."

Edward Snowden. (photo: Carsten Rehder/AFP/Getty Images)


After 2 Years, White House Finally Responds to Snowden Pardon Petition -
With a No
By Dan Froomkin, The Intercept
28 July 15

The White House on Tuesday ended two years of ignoring a hugely popular
whitehouse.gov petition calling for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to be
"immediately issued a full, free, and absolute pardon," saying thanks for
signing, but no.
"We live in a dangerous world," Lisa Monaco, President Obama's adviser on
homeland security and terrorism, said in a statement.
More than 167,000 people signed the petition, which surpassed the 100,000
signatures that the White House's "We the People" website said would garner
a guaranteed response on June 24, 2013.
In Tuesday's response, the White House acknowledged that "This is an issue
that many Americans feel strongly about."
Monaco then explained her position: "Instead of constructively addressing
these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose
classified information had severe consequences for the security of our
country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it."
Snowden didn't actually disclose any classified information - news
organizations including the Guardian, Washington Post, New York Times and
The Intercept did the disclosing. And the Obama administration has yet to
specify any "severe consequences" that can be independently confirmed.
Echoing the views of the most hardline Snowden critics, Monaco continued:
"If he felt his actions were consistent with civil disobedience, then he
should do what those who have taken issue with their own government do:
Challenge it, speak out, engage in a constructive act of protest, and -
importantly - accept the consequences of his actions. He should come home
to
the United States, and be judged by a jury of his peers - not hide behind
the cover of an authoritarian regime. Right now, he's running away from the
consequences of his actions."
Intercept founding editor Glenn Greenwald, one of the journalists to whom
Snowden entrusted his archive, has frequently responded to that argument,
noting that Snowden is willing to accept the legal consequences of his acts
- but, were he to come home under the current circumstances, would be
barred
under the draconian Espionage Act from publicly arguing that his leaks were
justified.
The Snowden response was one of 20 responses to what the White House called
"our We the People backlog." The White House had been criticized for
avoiding uncomfortable topics despite their popular support.
On Twitter, the responses to the Snowden response, some from signers of the
petition, were highly critical:
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Edward Snowden. (photo: Carsten Rehder/AFP/Getty Images)
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After 2 Years, White House Finally Responds to Snowden Pardon Petition -
With a No
By Dan Froomkin, The Intercept
28 July 15
he White House on Tuesday ended two years of ignoring a hugely popular
whitehouse.gov petition calling for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to be
"immediately issued a full, free, and absolute pardon," saying thanks for
signing, but no.
"We live in a dangerous world," Lisa Monaco, President Obama's adviser on
homeland security and terrorism, said in a statement.
More than 167,000 people signed the petition, which surpassed the 100,000
signatures that the White House's "We the People" website said would garner
a guaranteed response on June 24, 2013.
In Tuesday's response, the White House acknowledged that "This is an issue
that many Americans feel strongly about."
Monaco then explained her position: "Instead of constructively addressing
these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose
classified information had severe consequences for the security of our
country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it."
Snowden didn't actually disclose any classified information - news
organizations including the Guardian, Washington Post, New York Times and
The Intercept did the disclosing. And the Obama administration has yet to
specify any "severe consequences" that can be independently confirmed.
Echoing the views of the most hardline Snowden critics, Monaco continued:
"If he felt his actions were consistent with civil disobedience, then he
should do what those who have taken issue with their own government do:
Challenge it, speak out, engage in a constructive act of protest, and -
importantly - accept the consequences of his actions. He should come home
to
the United States, and be judged by a jury of his peers - not hide behind
the cover of an authoritarian regime. Right now, he's running away from the
consequences of his actions."
Intercept founding editor Glenn Greenwald, one of the journalists to whom
Snowden entrusted his archive, has frequently responded to that argument,
noting that Snowden is willing to accept the legal consequences of his acts
- but, were he to come home under the current circumstances, would be
barred
under the draconian Espionage Act from publicly arguing that his leaks were
justified.
The Snowden response was one of 20 responses to what the White House called
"our We the People backlog." The White House had been criticized for
avoiding uncomfortable topics despite their popular support.
On Twitter, the responses to the Snowden response, some from signers of the
petition, were highly critical:
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