I don't remember how I got on it. It's on Freelists. But it isn't a very
helpful list. They don't talk about books usually, except that once in a
great while, a volunteer will announce a book that he or she has submitted.
But they're not the kind of books that you or I read. If people have
problems with the site, they may talk about them. But it's a quiet list.
Maybe Roger knows how to subscribe.
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alice Dampman
Humel
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:12 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: What Irony!
so does this mean a person cannot contribute to a discussion by offering his
opinion, even if the contribution of that opinion opens a new offshoot of
the topic, particularly if that opinion might ruffle some feathers or be
unpopular? What's the point of having a discussion then at all? A discussion
might begin about a more or less narrow subject or point, but what makes the
discussion more interesting is having it grow beyond that scope, to bring in
other ideas, other topics.
I know you are not defending the bully criers, Miriam, and I'm just musing
here.I think people vary wildly as to how intense, how deep and wide, they
like their discussions to get. And then, of course, there are the people who
only want to have their say and want and expect everyone who has anything to
contribute other than, "Yes, I agree, you are exactly right" to hold their
tongues.
BTW, what is the bookshare list subscription info? I think I"d like to be on
it for info about what's going on on bookshare...
On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I read some of those interchanges, and then I stopped reading
them.
And I am not taking the side of the proponents of religious science
fiction
which, to me, with my lack of knoledge of science fiction, does
sound like a
contradiction in terms, anyway. But I can explain why this person,
or
others, perceived you as a bully. The reason is that you gave your
opinion
of religion when no one asked for it. No one was discussing the
value or
validity of religion. In fact, most of them feel that their
religious
beliefs are part of their identity. So when you say something
negative about
religion in general, it feels to them, like a personal attack. And
to add
insult to injury, you expressed a negative opinion about religion
gratuitously. So they felt attacked by you or bullied by you, and it
seemed
to them, to just come out of the blue.
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] What Irony!
Here's a laugh for you. Recently I made a comment on the Bookshare
list that
I think science fiction that pushes religion makes for poor writing.
Actually, I think that any attempt to use fiction to push religion
results
in poor writing, but the topic was specifically about science
fiction. Well,
that caused several people to start emailing me to bash me over the
head
with religion, bash me over the head and engage in name calling and
insults
too. I have a policy anymore of standing up to religious bullies
even if not
on the same level as they launch their attacks. I just respond to
them using
reason to show them where they are going wrong. Well, I backed one
of them
into a corner today and he had no response to the logic trap I set
for him.
Wouldn't you know it. He calls me a bully and breaks off
communication. Take
note that I did not contact him or any of these people. I only
responded to
what they were saying to me, though in a much more civil manner than
they
did. Yet, somehow I am the bully?
