[blind-democracy] Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for "Radicalized" Americans

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  • Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:35:21 -0400


Hussain writes: "Retired general and former Democratic presidential
candidate Wesley Clark on Friday called for World War II-style internment
camps to be revived for 'disloyal Americans.'"

Wesley Clark. (photo: Danny Johnston/AP)


Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for "Radicalized" Americans
By Murtaza Hussain, The Intercept
20 July 15

Retired general and former Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark on
Friday called for World War II-style internment camps to be revived for
"disloyal Americans." In an interview with MSNBC's Thomas Roberts in the
wake of the mass shooting in Chatanooga, Tennessee, Clark said that during
World War II, "if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the
United States, we didn't say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a
camp, they were prisoners of war."
He called for a revival of internment camps to help combat Muslim extremism,
saying, "If these people are radicalized and they don't support the United
States and they are disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle,
fine. It's their right and it's our right and obligation to segregate them
from the normal community for the duration of the conflict."
The comments were shockingly out of character for Clark, who after serving
as supreme allied commander of NATO made a name for himself in progressive
political circles. In 2004, his campaign for the Democratic presidential
nomination was highly critical of the Bush administration's excessive
response to the 9/11 terror attacks. Since then, he has been a critic of
policies that violate the Geneva Convention, saying in 2006 that policies
such as torture violate "the very values that [we] espouse."
In a memoir written the following year, he also famously alleged that the
White House under Bush had developed a massively imperialistic plan for the
Middle East, which would see the administration attempt to "take out seven
countries in five years," beginning with the invasions in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
Earlier this year I spoke with Clark at the annual Lewis and Clark
University Symposium on International Affairs in Portland, Oregon. The
subject of our discussion was how to deal with the potential threat of
foreign fighters returning from armed conflicts abroad. At the time, Clark
spoke out strongly against "the politics of fear" and eroding democratic
institutions and norms, while reiterating his criticism of the excesses
committed by Bush-era neoconservatives under the banner of fighting
terrorism.
But on Friday, he was advocating the revival of a policy widely considered
to be among the most shameful chapters in American history: World War II
domestic internment camps. Aside from the inherent problems in criminalizing
people for their beliefs, Clark's proposal (which his MSNBC interlocutor did
not challenge him on) also appears to be based on the concept of targeting
people for government scrutiny who are not even "radicalized," but who the
government decides may be subject to radicalization in the future. That
radicalization itself is a highly amorphous and politically malleable
concept only makes this proposal more troubling.
"We have got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized.
We've got to cut this off at the beginning," Clark said. "I do think on a
national policy level we need to look at what self-radicalization means
because we are at war with this group of terrorists." And he added that "not
only the United States but our allied nations like Britain, Germany and
France are going to have to look at their domestic law procedures."
Despite an outcry about his comments on social media, Clark has not
responded publicly. As of Monday morning, his latest tweet was from Friday,
encouraging his followers to watch his interview.

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Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for "Radicalized" Americans
By Murtaza Hussain, The Intercept
20 July 15
etired general and former Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark on
Friday called for World War II-style internment camps to be revived for
"disloyal Americans." In an interview with MSNBC's Thomas Roberts in the
wake of the mass shooting in Chatanooga, Tennessee, Clark said that during
World War II, "if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the
United States, we didn't say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a
camp, they were prisoners of war."
He called for a revival of internment camps to help combat Muslim extremism,
saying, "If these people are radicalized and they don't support the United
States and they are disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle,
fine. It's their right and it's our right and obligation to segregate them
from the normal community for the duration of the conflict."
The comments were shockingly out of character for Clark, who after serving
as supreme allied commander of NATO made a name for himself in progressive
political circles. In 2004, his campaign for the Democratic presidential
nomination was highly critical of the Bush administration's excessive
response to the 9/11 terror attacks. Since then, he has been a critic of
policies that violate the Geneva Convention, saying in 2006 that policies
such as torture violate "the very values that [we] espouse."
In a memoir written the following year, he also famously alleged that the
White House under Bush had developed a massively imperialistic plan for the
Middle East, which would see the administration attempt to "take out seven
countries in five years," beginning with the invasions in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
Earlier this year I spoke with Clark at the annual Lewis and Clark
University Symposium on International Affairs in Portland, Oregon. The
subject of our discussion was how to deal with the potential threat of
foreign fighters returning from armed conflicts abroad. At the time, Clark
spoke out strongly against "the politics of fear" and eroding democratic
institutions and norms, while reiterating his criticism of the excesses
committed by Bush-era neoconservatives under the banner of fighting
terrorism.
But on Friday, he was advocating the revival of a policy widely considered
to be among the most shameful chapters in American history: World War II
domestic internment camps. Aside from the inherent problems in criminalizing
people for their beliefs, Clark's proposal (which his MSNBC interlocutor did
not challenge him on) also appears to be based on the concept of targeting
people for government scrutiny who are not even "radicalized," but who the
government decides may be subject to radicalization in the future. That
radicalization itself is a highly amorphous and politically malleable
concept only makes this proposal more troubling.
"We have got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized.
We've got to cut this off at the beginning," Clark said. "I do think on a
national policy level we need to look at what self-radicalization means
because we are at war with this group of terrorists." And he added that "not
only the United States but our allied nations like Britain, Germany and
France are going to have to look at their domestic law procedures."
Despite an outcry about his comments on social media, Clark has not
responded publicly. As of Monday morning, his latest tweet was from Friday,
encouraging his followers to watch his interview.
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