I see another possible explanation for your client's response. People tend
to be self centered as well as altruistic. They measure what others have in
terms of what they have. People on the left tend to have a rather optomistic
view of where people stand politically and of what motivates them. They
think that people would think and feel differently if only the system were
different. I keep reading in articles about how a majority of people want
single payer health care. I surely don't know who is being polled to get
these results. I was trying to explain the other day to someone how freeing
it would be to be able to get whatever medical treatment one needed without
worrying about paying insurance premiums and copays and about how government
run systems actually have better results for people. Her response was,
"Well, I've heard that you have to wait for surgery in those countries. I
wan to be able to get the surgery I want whenever I want it. And, she asked,
canyou choose whatever doctor you want in those countries. Of course, she's
in a HIP plan so she can't choose any doctor she wants. But her husband's
union benefits pay for the extra cost of going out of network. So why would
she consider rocking the boat? And then there was the person who said
spontaneously to me, "I'm opposed to people getting $15 an hour minimum pay.
They have no education. I"m a lawyer and my law firm is underpaying me".
It's a non sequitor, but both are examples of people who think about their
own personal situations as being most important and, therefore, can't
consider what is happening to other people as being important. I strongly
suspect that there are selfish and self serving people in communes, as well
as socialist countries.
Miriam
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A good article to file away for use when people tell us that there is no
prejudice any longer, and that it' Black People who are simply touchy.
That's what one of our clients said. "They're just too touchy, thinking
everything is related to the color of their skin."
She went on to tell us that many of "Those" people are doing a heck of a lot
better than she.
We blind folk might do well to think about how the prevailing attitudes of
the sighted mainstream controls us. The general public becomes annoyed with
us if we constantly point out how their attitudes and actions limit our
activities. We are told that we seem to use our blindness as an excuse.
When we complain that we felt we were passed over for a job because of our
vision, we are told that this is not possible under today's ADA protection.
The similarities are many, and just like other minorities, we are viewed as
whiny complainers.
It's too bad that our educational system can't spend some time teaching us
to see past our differences and look at our similarities.
But we're busy preparing our children to be little worker bees, A good
education is that which prepares you to be capable of contributing to the
wealth of the Ruling Class, and to worm your way up the "ladder of success".
Back when I went to school, they didn't even teach such basic stuff as
budget management, or family relationships. We just winged it and learned
by trial and error...like our own parents did.
Carl Jarvis
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WATCH: British Reporter in Ferguson Finds Whites Openly Carrying
Rifles and Peaceful Blacks Being Arrested
ByDavid Edwards[1]/ Raw Story[2]
August 12, 2015
Kylie Morris of Channel 4 in Britain visited Ferguson on Tuesday and
tried to explain to the British people why white "Oath Keepers" were
allowed to openly carry firearms on the street while peaceful black
protesters were arrested.
"The men, calling themselves Oath Keepers, only added to the already
simmering tensions," a Channel 4 anchor noted before tossing to Morris
for a live report from Ferguson.
Morris told her British audience that the commemoration of the one
year anniversary of Michael Brown's death had been interrupted by
armed Oath Keepers, who claimed that they were there to protect
businesses and conservative journalists.
"But certainly their presence, their state of wearing uniforms,
military-type uniforms - some of them are ex-military, some of them
are even serving police, we're told," she reported. "They were, you
know, carrying weapons."
Morris noted that black protesters faced pepper spray, arrests and
other actions by riot police.
The Oath Keepers, however, "openly carry sidearms and semi-automatic
weapons as is their right," she said.
"You and people who look like you, white males, have the sovereignty
to walk around with assault rifles," one black protesters told a white
Oath Keeper, "But we [black protesters] can't even like stand out here
and assemble peacefully and exercise our constitutional right to do so
without being gassed, maced and arrested."
"I don't have a perspective," the Oath Keeper replied flatly.
Morris said that she had a hard time understanding why police would
arrest otherwise peaceful protesters.
"It's hard to know how this keeps the peace, putting civil rights
leaders in handcuffs, including the prominent philosopher Cornel West
and Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson during a peaceful
sit-in outside the federal court," she remarked.
During an interview with Mckesson, she asked if the police appeared to
be taking retribution on the protesters for all of the negative
attention the Black Lives Matter movement had brought to the area.
"There is a long history of law enforcement targeting people who are
fighting for their rights," Mckesson told Morris. "The reality is that
the status quo didn't just happen overnight, the status quo
[developed] over many years and people work hard to reinforce it,
day."
Morris noted that there was a "right-wing push back" against the Black
Live Matter movement, which she said "feels more and more vociferous every
including the police."
"There are people whose bread and butter is sustaining racist
oppressive systems like for-profit prisons," Mckesson said. "The
right's response to us is a sign the movement is working."
As for the Oathkeepers, Mckesson said that they were a reminder that
law enforcement in Ferguson "police based on race."
"If black people had come out with rifles like that, it would have
been sheer pandemonium outside," he added. "But white people, there
was no response by the police. They left, they didn't return."
"And that's real. Policing is racially coded in places like Missouri
and places all over the country."
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WATCH: British Reporter in Ferguson Finds Whites Openly Carrying
Rifles and Peaceful Blacks Being Arrested
ByDavid Edwards[1]/ Raw Story[2]
August 12, 2015
Kylie Morris of Channel 4 in Britain visited Ferguson on Tuesday and
tried to explain to the British people why white "Oath Keepers" were
allowed to openly carry firearms on the street while peaceful black
protesters were arrested.
"The men, calling themselves Oath Keepers, only added to the already
simmering tensions," a Channel 4 anchor noted before tossing to Morris
for a live report from Ferguson.
Morris told her British audience that the commemoration of the one
year anniversary of Michael Brown's death had been interrupted by
armed Oath Keepers, who claimed that they were there to protect
businesses and conservative journalists.
"But certainly their presence, their state of wearing uniforms,
military-type uniforms - some of them are ex-military, some of them
are even serving police, we're told," she reported. "They were, you
know, carrying weapons."
Morris noted that black protesters faced pepper spray, arrests and
other actions by riot police.
The Oath Keepers, however, "openly carry sidearms and semi-automatic
weapons as is their right," she said.
"You and people who look like you, white males, have the sovereignty
to walk around with assault rifles," one black protesters told a white
Oath Keeper, "But we [black protesters] can't even like stand out here
and assemble peacefully and exercise our constitutional right to do so
without being gassed, maced and arrested."
"I don't have a perspective," the Oath Keeper replied flatly.
Morris said that she had a hard time understanding why police would
arrest otherwise peaceful protesters.
"It's hard to know how this keeps the peace, putting civil rights
leaders in handcuffs, including the prominent philosopher Cornel West
and Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson during a peaceful
sit-in outside the federal court," she remarked.
During an interview with Mckesson, she asked if the police appeared to
be taking retribution on the protesters for all of the negative
attention the Black Lives Matter movement had brought to the area.
"There is a long history of law enforcement targeting people who are
fighting for their rights," Mckesson told Morris. "The reality is that
the status quo didn't just happen overnight, the status quo
[developed] over many years and people work hard to reinforce it,
day."
Morris noted that there was a "right-wing push back" against the Black
Live Matter movement, which she said "feels more and more vociferous every
"There are people whose bread and butter is sustaining racist
oppressive systems like for-profit prisons," Mckesson said. "The
right's response to us is a sign the movement is working."
As for the Oathkeepers, Mckesson said that they were a reminder that
law enforcement in Ferguson "police based on race."
"If black people had come out with rifles like that, it would have
been sheer pandemonium outside," he added. "But white people, there
was no response by the police. They left, they didn't return."
"And that's real. Policing is racially coded in places like Missouri
and places all over the country."
Watch the video below from Channel 4, broadcast Aug. 11, 2015.
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