actually, my “interpretation” comment was in response to your explanation of
why you say Bernie “betrayed” Massachusetts, with which I also disagreed. And
I’ll paste it below for convenience:
Miriam, he betrayed us here in Massachusetts by doing very little campaigning
here. I believe he ducked out on MA so that he wouldn't look too radical in
other moderate and right leaning states.
Frank
On Mar 25, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Well, as Alice said, that's your interpretation. I happen to disagree.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
More likely, he figured that your state would support him and there were
other states that required more attention. This may have been poor judgment
on his part or on the part of his campaign staff. I don't know why it's
necessary to attribute acomplicated and malevolent motive to what turned out
to be a mistake.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:50 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
Miriam, he betrayed us here in Massachusetts by doing very little campaigning
here. I believe he ducked out on MA so that he wouldn't look too radical in
other moderate and right leaning states.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:53 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
How did he abandon you? How did he betray his core base? As for his
statements about Clinton, I heard them, I heard videos of some of his
speeches and interviews with him when he first started his campaign.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:22 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
You're believing lies, some of which are even in the very same articles you
have posted. Sanders has not endorsed Clinton (or anyone else) he has said
that publically. Sanders betrayed us here in Massachusetts, directly
abandoning some of his core base. That should tell you what type of campaign
he is running and what type of president he would be; regardless of what some
of your wealthy elitist authors have sold you. They won't pay my rent.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:16 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
Frank,
He ran as a Democrat so that his messsage would be heard. He has been roundly
criticized by the Left for not running as an independent and for saying that
if he does not win in the primaries, he will support Clinton. He is being
criticized by the Left because if there is any money left over in his
campaign treasury and he doesn't get the nomination, the money will go to
Hillary and he has said repeatedly that he will ask his supporters to vote
for her. He also said that he didn't run as an independent because he didn't
want to be "a spoiler". Really, if you're going to toss insults and
criticisms at him, it might be a good idea to first read all of the material
and get all the facts straight. I've posted Chris Hedges' tirades against
Sanders for running as a Democrat s well as the angry articles of several
other people like Glenn Ford.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:13 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
Marsha, your message is exactally what I am talking about. Your position
isn't in positive support of any viable candidate but instead is merely a
negative protest against one that you dislike (Clinton). Remember what they
say about your nose and your face. As far as Sanders goes; like I said, I
voted for him but I see now that he probably isn't serious about winning,
just serious about keeping Clinton out of office. The reason I say this is
that here in Massachusetts the primary was his to win. He could have won
easily but essentially flipped us the bird by not aggressively campaigning.
That was his betrayal. Also both you and Miriam are ignoring one very
important fact. Sanders switched from being an independent to a Democrat to
win. If he was serious about a presidential run he could have easily ran as
an independent. Why get on the Democratic ticket, if not to try to derail the
Democratic front runner?
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martian.Lady
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 2:21 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Trump and Clinton's Big Night Poses Hard
Questions For Sanders Campaign and His Youthful Supporters
HI
Who Says Sanders is running to be a spoiler. Perhaps he doesn't have much
of a chance but he has surprised people. Hilary is a two-faced liar who
really shouldn't even be elected to dog catcher. Would not want to take it
out on the poor dogs.
Marsha
