I do remember when that may have been an issue. Now the individuals engaging
in what used to be considered by most as deviancy aren't content to just live
and let live, they're now being forceful about demanding unquestioning loyalty
and worse, otherwise there are often attempts, unfortunately many successful to
ruin anyone who isn't totally about sharing the beliefs of the moment.
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Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] The west and social values
I think it is totally inaccurate to say that Clinton was enamored with
Monica Luinsky. Everything I know about the affair seems to indicate
that he only opportunistically took advantage of what was available to
him and that it is more accurately described as lust rather than
amorousness. Whatever the case, though, I am extremely critical of
William Clinton, but not so much on this matter. What happened between
him and Monica Luinsky is their business. And that is the main reason I
tend to be really hesitant to use the words moral or morality in
reference to myself or any cause I support. It is because religious
types have used that word to justify their butting into everyone's
private business and especially everyone's private sexual business. As
long as the people involved consent to the sexual practices they engage
in it is of no concern to anyone else even if religious people want to
make it their concern. That just shows how unethical and slimy religion
is. As to your recriminations about having flirted on line, Moustafa,
you are just being silly. But as silly as you are being, if you want to
stop on line flirting that is your business too. It would be well of you
to stop worrying about other people's sexual conduct. If you don't then
you are just continuing to prove yourself to be a jerk.
On 6/17/2018 11:55 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello. During his term, former president Bill Clinton was enormously
disgraced with White House intern. She was called, Monica Lewinsky. He
was frantically enamoured with her. She was reportedly portrayed as
Bill Clinton's coquette. She was broadly delineated as an imperilling
seductress. How was she possibly capable of consensually beguiling the
stiffest chief of the world at that time? Her initial attraction with
Bill Clinton was of him being the president of the United States.
Later at the horrendous aftermath of their scandalous relationship,
Monica confessed in an interview with Barbara Walters, that she
indeed fell in love with this man. Certainly, she had her affectionate
and sensual motives for that. Astoundingly, during the period of her
relationship with Bill Clinton, she had another man in her life. This
perturbing chronicle of Bill and Monica had been reciprocally
injurious to their reputation. Furthermore, it justly raised
reasonable concerns about American moral standards. During her
relationship with former president Bill Clinton, she became pregnant
with her second intimate mate. Shamelessly, Bill Clinton knew about
her affair with another man. He just didn't know she was expecting.
American social lifestyle is notoriously filled with such opprobrious
instances. Where does this primitively come from? It basically comes
from some parentally unguided biblical accounts. You may optionally
cite that in part of Lot's account with his two daughters in the
Bible. Please be noticed though, it contains incestuous description
that you may not appropriately hear about. According to the Bible and
the Koran, Lot was a notable patriarch. He was nephew of Abraham.
Allah destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for disobeying him and insistingly
committing homoeroticism. He glory be to Him Willed to spare Lot and
his partly believing family who were told to flee without looking back
at the awful doom of their people. This is mentioned in both, the
Bible and the Koran. What comes next though, is solely paltered in the
Bible. It has disingenuously been inserted into the Bible. Unlike many
southern evangelists, we do not destine to wholly defame the Bible.
We despise the manner by which they purposely denigrate and misquote
the Koran. We genuinely believe in all divine revelation. But, if you
think Lot's biblical account with his two daughters was divinely
inspired, you desperately demand to revise the moral stance of your
belief. This is why, I basically recognise Christianity to be
ethically profaned. If any faith doesn't urge piety and elevate its
embracers to the grace of the celestial realm, that is
emphatically a corrupt, inadequate and ineligible path. Christianity
generically is tolerant with involvements in illicit wedlock.
Maintaining your virginity as a girl in a western society is quite a
challenge. Although adultery is outlawed in mass Christendom, it
doesn't punish its denotative culprits. It is odd to find women who
stuck to their virginity until they licitly get married. Lastly, I did
not intend to bait people with this critical conversation. I just
meant to exculpate Islam from this oppressive portrait, which often
involves prejudice and incorrect pieces of information. Orientalists
claim Islam suppressed women. Western orientalists have deliberately
tarnished its immage, hoping to deter people from listening to what
Islam is. In respect to social values, Islam calls its followers to
adhere celibacy. It enjoins them to avoid inappropriate types of
friendship, as of these between men and women, particularly online
chats and so on. Unfortunately, I at some point fell in disgrace and
committed sins with some women online. I even betrayed my spouse in
our honeymoon. This was indeed extremely deleterious to her. I
confessed to her and unfeignedly repented. I now work on avoiding
these vicious relationships on the internet. The first thing I did, I
permenently shut all portals of social media, as of Skype, Facebook
etc. At first, I felt it is inconvenient but now, and after the
glorious month of Ramadan, I am sufficiently contented with what I
did. If you would like to listen to my humble piece of advice, do not
waste your time, talking to strangers online for purposeless
entertainment. I committed major offences in my faith as a result of
this. Now, As I have repented, I reordered my set of priorities,
including how should I spend my spare time. We do not kill time in
Islam. We rather invest it. Inshallah, I won't ever flirt or have
intimate talks but with my licit spouse.
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