Yes, we were really sold a bill of goods back then, just like people are being
told a different and new pack of lies now. And back then, we were children, but
the adults in our lives, believed what they were told. I think that they had a
bit more trust for the government back then, but then, the government had just
recently given them a social welfare state and saved them from Fascism, and
gotten them through a war without any attacks on our mainland.
Miriam
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Hi Miriam,
My short term memory may be getting a bit uneven, but my long term memory is
working just fine. I remember. And often times what I remember has little
bearing on what we teach our children.
I remember not being told that those poor Jews that we were busy freeing from
Hitler, were not allowed sanction on our shores. I was not taught that the
"Promised Land" was already home to other people.
What I was taught was that it was our American Christian duty to "give the
Jewish People back their Home Land". And I watched, although it was never on
the news back in those days, as we armed Israel as our "Outpost" in the Middle
East.
But mostly I weep for the lost millions of innocent people who have died or
suffered while the American Empire played its political games.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/18/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You probably don't remember, but there was a time when Israel
considered Saudi Arabia to be a mortal enemy and American Jews talked
about Saudi Arabia as if it were the devil incarnate because they
perceived it as a danger to Israel. That is why this story is so ironic.
Miriam
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I'd add the word, "deliberately": "The US mainstream media is ignoring
the Israel-Saudi Arabia de facto alliance." Our American Empire
Oligarchs have a love affair with Dictators and Despots, but they try
to pretend that they are looking out for our nation. It's a "high
wire" act that is about to trip them up.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/17/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The US mainstream media is ignoring the Israel-Saudi Arabia de facto
alliance James North on October 16, 2018 Decrease Text Size
Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, the de facto ruler.
(Photo: AFP)
Over the past week or so, Saudi Arabia has gotten more U.S.
mainstream media coverage than at any time in decades. But
conspicuously missing has been any reporting on the kingdom’s growing
friendship with Israel — a de facto alliance that may help explain
why Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman thought he could get away with
ordering the murder of the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.
Madawi Al-Rasheed is a Saudi Arabian woman professor, presently at
King’s College London, who has written or edited more than 13 books
on her home nation. Particularly valuable is her recently edited
(2018) collection about the kingdom’s new leadership, entitled
Salman’s
Legacy: The Dilemmas of a New Era in Saudi Arabia.
In that book, she is clear about the growing Saudi rapprochement with
Israel. She writes that the Crown Prince “has continued to
clandestinely cooperate with Israel on security and economic matters,”
adding
In July 2016 a delegation of Saudi academics and businessmen visited
Israel with a view to establishing discreet relations, aimed at
strengthening Saudi Arabia’s military capabilities and enlisting
Israel in any armed confrontation with Iran.
Further evidence of this Saudi-Israel connection is the absence of
any official criticism from Tel Aviv about the assassination of Jamal
Khashoggi.
Once upon a time, the Israeli government promptly denounced any
crimes anywhere in the Arab or Muslim world. But the recent Twitter
feeds of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former ambassador to the U.S.
Michael Oren include not a word about the murder of Khashoggi.
The mainstream U.S. press is also ignoring this Saudi-Israel connection.
Here’s just one example: in the Atlantic, Aaron David Miller analyzed
the U.S.-Saudi relationship at some length but he only mentioned
Israel in passing — an odd omission for a Professional Peace
Processor like himself who knows Israel inside out.
By contrast, the British media had started to report on the budding
Israel-Saudi Arabia relationship. In November 2017, the BBC said that
“to all intents and purposes, Saudi Arabia and Israel are de facto
allies against Iran’s rising influence in the region.” The BBC report
cited an interview with the UK-based Saudi newspaper Elaph, in which
Israel’s Chief of Staff, General Gadi Eisenkot, revealed that “Israel
was ready to exchange intelligence with the Saudis in order to
confront Iran.”
Nearly a year ago, this site had suggested that “an alliance of Saudi
Arabia and Benjamin Netanyahu, urged on privately by the Trump
administration, is deliberately moving toward starting a much wider
‘New War in the Mideast.’”
Our source was the distinguished veteran journalist Béchir Ben
Yahmed, the founder and still editor of the respected French-language
Jeune Afrique (Young Africa), who warned that the Saudi-Netanyahu
partnership might aim at Iran’s ally, the Hezbollah
political/military movement in Lebanon.
The de facto Israel-Saudi Arabia alliance is another nail in the
coffin of the ludicrous Clash of Civilizations theory. Samuel
Huntington, one of the theory’s two main advocates, famously wrote
that “Islam has bloody borders.”
As Islamic Saudi Arabia and Jewish/Western Israel collaborate against
Islamic Hezbollah, where is this “fault line”?
Of course, even if Israel had never existed, the United States (and
Europe) would support Saudi Arabia. Fracking in the U.S. may have
reduced dependence on Saudi oil exports, but the kingdom could still
trigger a world recession if it wanted to. And the shameful spectacle
of all the U.S. businesses that had planned to participate in the
upcoming “Future Investment Initiative”
in
the Saudi capital, Riyadh, (the New York Times was a co-sponsor)
proves that not just weapons manufacturers planned to keep making
money in the repressive medieval desert kingdom.
Still, the Israel-Saudi connection surely strengthens the U.S. zeal
to protect and excuse Saudi crimes. When will the U.S. mainstream
media start reporting on it?
