Yes, good point. I'm afraid that the fear of socialism will work bigtime in
Trump's favor if Bernie wins the nomination. It'll be Joe McCarthy all over
again as the Republicans label Bernie and his supporters socialists,
communists, pinkos, etc. And that'll ring truest for those who live in swing
states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pensylvania. Perhaps without the electoral
college, Bernie might have a better shot to win?
In my heart, I'd be pretty psyched about a President Bernie.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 10:05 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of Buttigieg in New
Hampshire Poll
Bernie just won the vote in two states. How much more electable does he need
to be? The Establishment's Media is going to tear up anyone who shows signs of
being Progressive. They would love to see two MugWumps running against one
another.
Carl KJarvis
On 2/12/20, Bob Hachey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Frank,
I noticed your disdain for Sanders.
So, who do you support for the nomination?
My heart is with Sanders but I doubt he's electable and what I want
most is to see Trump defeated in November. In the end, I'll vote for
whoever is on the other side of the ballot from Trump. If it's Biden,
I'll be holding my nose. IF it's Bernie, I'll be happy to vote for him though
I fear he'd lose.
I'm torn in the primary between Mayor Pete and Amy Klobichar. I
believe that Amy is most likely to unify the nation if that is possible.
Bob Hachey
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ;
miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:44 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
So if Sanders wanted Trump to win in 2016, why did he give all of his
delegates to Hillary Clinton at the Democratic Convention?
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:49 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
Sanders only wants to make sure Trump wins. He sabotaged 2016 and he
will do it again in 2020. Obviously he cares about nothing more than
his wealthy liberal elite; certainly not the working class.
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miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:43 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
He was the only candidate with enough votes to have beaten Trump in
2016 and he's the only one who can beat him now. He's the only
candidate who cares about the working class and the poor and the lower
middle class. He's the one with young people and people of color who
are not elderly and conservative, supporting him. The others are all
Corporate Democrats. The corporate media and PBS and NPR and
especially, MSNBC have been distorting what they report to give you
the impression that he can't win, and like last time, they'll do
whatever it takes to make him lose. They'd rather have Trump because
the leadership of the Democratic Party are all wealthy. They don't
give a hoot about the base of the party. They loved Hillary who is a
war hawk and whose Clinton Foundation took money from all of the
middle eastern monarchies that her state department supported. . Would
you like Joe Biden who was opposed to school integration and who
favored mass incarceration and the financial industry? Or Pete
Puttigieg who is backed by billionaires and who wants to cut social
security and medicaide? And by the way, Sanders is the only candidate
who has criticized Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Do you
want our country to continue on the path that it's on? Because all of
these Democratic candidates want to continue the status quo, more and more
money going to the ultra wealthy and the rest of us being treated like trash.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:08 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
Anyone who believes that should buy a bridge in Brooklyn. Sanders is
just another of the many con-men in the political circus right now. He
proved that with his shenanigans in2016. I think he is running
strictly to keep Trump in office. He may be one of the least electable
candidates. If he wins the nomination Trump will laugh his way to another 4
years.
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miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:11 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
What scares them is not the word. It's that if he won, that would mean
that he really would facilitate organizing the people to remove the
advantages that the corporations and the billionaire have. And once
people began to organize and realized that they had power and could
change things, they might truly change the system.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:21 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of
Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll
I'm reminded of the old radio/TV sitcom, The Life of Riley. Chester A.
Riley was fond of saying, "Don't confuse me with facts. My head is
made up".
And so it is with the Democratic Establishment. Bernie is not acceptable.
It's that pesky word, "socialist" that scares them.
Socialism is okay when practiced by the Establishment, rewarding one
another with posh military contracts. But let's not get crazy and
pass the goodies around among the Working Class.
If being a Democrat or Republican means that you take the Party line
and follow your Party's orders, then I'm a Socialist. If being a
Socialist means that I must stand alongside my fellow Workers, and
fight together to improve our share of our nation's wealth, a wealth
we helped to create, then I truly am a Socialist.
Your Socialist friend, Carl Jarvis, still trying to get through to the
Democratic Party that I quit! You don't want my vote, because I vote
like a Socialist! If you don't want Bernie Sanders, then you sure don't want
me!
On 2/11/20, miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sanders Pulls Further Ahead of Buttigieg in New Hampshire Poll By Jon
Keller, CBS Boston
10 February 20
his New Hampshire primary has been a rollercoaster ride, with one
last hairpin turn in the final night of the exclusive WBZ/Boston
Globe/Suffolk University tracking poll.
Bernie Sanders appears to be cementing his hold on first place with
27 percent, while Pete Buttigieg, who had surged into a virtual tie
with Sanders as the week ended, in second with 19 percent.
And Amy Klobuchar continues her momentum from last night with a 14
percent showing, good for third place. However, she is still within
the poll's 4.4 percent margin of error of Joe Biden and Elizabeth
Warren, who placed within a fraction of each other in fourth and
fifth place.
In addition to these statewide numbers, Suffolk has also been polling
the city of Dover, a so-called bellwether community that has
foreshadowed the statewide order of finish in the last three
contested Democratic primaries.
And their response to our poll seems to confirm the statewide trend.
The Dover polling has Sanders and Buttigieg closer together,
finishing first and second within the 5.6 percent margin of error of each
other.
But running solidly in third is Klobuchar, an also-ran in our poll
all week who has seemingly picked up steam off a widely-acclaimed
debate performance Friday night.
Joe Biden came in fourth, just barely ahead of Elizabeth Warren, both
within reach of Klobuchar but with a showing that has to be a
disappointment for both of them.
"This is the first time all of the survey is post-debate," notes
David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research
Center.
"Whether Klobuchar's spike is temporary remains to be seen. Sanders'
improvement comes in two areas: the West/North region - the four
counties that know him best - and people torn between him and Warren.
If Klobuchar were to finish third or fourth, she's going to knock
someone into that fifth spot, a real dire place to be for Biden or
Warren."
Of course, the only poll that really matters is the one in the voting
booth on Tuesday, so get out and vote and then watch your vote count
with our special primary night coverage starting at 8 p.m. on TV38
with a full wrapup on WBZ News at 11.
The exclusive WBZ-TV/Boston Globe/Suffolk University tracking poll is
a two-day rolling sample of 500 likely New Hampshire Democratic
primary voters.
