True, lots of people were fooled by Obama. But the experience of the
underclass in America is, I think, qualitatively different from what most of
us experience. Coincidentally, in the part of the book about the history of
the Black Panthers that I was reading today, there were vivid descriptions
of how the police and the FBI used subterfuge to try to turn various black
organizations against each other and to foment violence. They planted
informers in neighborhoods, as they do now with Muslims in mosques and in
Muslim areas. They are most assuredly doing this with Black Lives Matter.
There have been articles about how they are spying on this group.
Miriam
________________________________
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alice Dampman
Humel
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:34 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Republican Assault on Trump May Only Make Him
Stronger
I think that feeling of not being able to trust anyone has gotten worse for
all of us.and with good reason, too.
On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I haven't heard or seen that story yet. If it's true, if these were
young,
angry black activists, they're not choosing the right candidates to
fight.
They're choosing someone who is an easy target. Given their life
experience,
it's difficult for them to know just who the enemy is. After we
moved to
Westbury and I became active in the PTA, there was a meeting of the
PTA of
thepreK through second grade school at my house one night. After the
meeting
was over, two women remained. They were two residents of the ghetto
area,
adjacent to the area where I lived. They stayed quite late, drinking
coffee,
nibbling cake, and gossiping. They talked about a lot of the people
who were
active in the school community, both black and white, and as they
let their
guard down and expressed their true feelings, it became apparent,
that they
felt threatened on every side. People whom I assumed were trusted
leaders in
the black vcommunity, were suspect. They talked about plots and
counterplots
and suspected ulterior motives. Whatever the true facts may have
been, the
world in which they lived was terrifying and threatening because
they felt
that they couldn't depend on the good intentions or honesty of
anyone. Given
the world we live in today, that's probably still true for all of
the
African Americans who live in ghettoes today. If they can't count on
a black
President and a black attorney general to protect them, how can they
trust
an old Jewish guy from Vermont?
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl
Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:59 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Republican Assault on Trump May Only
Make Him
Stronger
Odds say you're right, Miriam. But since the only outside chance of
my
having some part of this government, I'll keep on plugging Bernie
Sanders
until he drops.
By the way, did you hear that Bernie was blocked from speaking in
Seattle at
the West Lake Mall?
He was able to get the mike later that evening on the U of W campus.
I didn't get the entire story, and heaven only knows if the media's
story
bore any relationship to the truth, but apparently two activists
took the
mike away and held it for 20 minutes. If I'd been there wanting to
listen
to Sanders, and even though I'm sympathetic to the Black Rights
causes, I'd
have been put out. If this continues it can hurt Sanders. Hurting
Sanders
is not going to help Blacks. The best they can hope for will be
Hillary
Clinton. That is not a good replacement.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/9/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On the contrary, I think that Taibbi is quite serious. What
he is
saying is
Ohaving some part of this government, I'll keep on plugging Bernie
Sanders
until he drops.
that when the more mainstream Republicans attack Trump, they
are
verifying the beliefs of the lunatic fringe that the
establishment is
monolithic, and that it needs a true rebel, someone who will
voice
their ideas openly, to oppose it. The Tea Party, the
Survivalists, the
White Supremacists, the Dominionists, he's their guy. What
that means
is that it ensures that a right wing Democrat, Clinton, will
win the
election.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:22 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Republican Assault on Trump
May Only
Make Him Stronger
I know that Matt Taibbi is writing tongue in cheek, but
still...
This entire sham, this "Let's Pretend" debate was exactly
what it was
intended to be. Entertainment. It was like the old TV
show, The
Bachelors on steroids. A bunch of egotists strutting their
stuff,
hoping the pretty bachelorette will select them. Well,
maybe Trump
was the exception. But I've already written my thoughts on
his
involvement. I will say in addition, Trump is not,
absolutely not a
man who cares for the well being of the American People.
His contempt
for all of us, not just women or Mexicans, hangs out on his
face and
drips from his sneering lips.
But the major contribution of this so called debate was to
keep
attention off any meaningful discussion of issues. The
loyal fans in
the audience ate it up, clapping and guffawing and shouting
their
approval over the blood letting.
It did make me laugh, too. But that's my Black Humor. All
in all it
should scare us.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/8/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Taibbi writes: "Last night's debate was the funniest
political
program in our nation's history. Nothing really
comes close."
Donald Trump was the punching bag at Thursday's Fox
News GOP debate.
(photo:
Chip Somodevilla/Getty)
Republican Assault on Trump May Only Make Him
Stronger By Matt
Taibbi, Rolling Stone
08 August 15
Party insiders ganged up on Trump in the first GOP
debate, but the
tactic may backfire
Last night's debate was the funniest political
program in our
nation's history. Nothing really comes close.
There have been moments, obviously. Bush ducking a
shoe. Admiral
Stockdale saying "Who am I? Why am I here?" Sarah
Palin being
interviewed while a man in the background beheaded
turkeys was a classic.
But for comic staying power and sheer WTF factor
last night's debate
went beyond 11. By my count there were over a dozen
genuine
laugh-out-loud moments. Mike Huckabee bringing pimps
into a
presidential debate for the first time ever was a
landmark moment.
Jeb Bush's attempt at a one-liner, "They call me
Veto Corrleone,"
made millions of adults cringe at the same time.
Then there was Megyn
Kelly's brain-busting toss to commercial near the
end:
KELLY: We have to stand you by, because after the
break, we're going
to let the candidates make their closing statements,
their final
thoughts,
and.
God.
Is it really possible we made it this far in the
television era
without reaching this point: We'll be right back -
with God!
God was really the only character missing from that
debate last night.
Almost everyone else was there, in the repartee if
not in person:
Rosie O'Donnell, LeBron James, Putin, St. Peter, St.
Reagan, Siamese
twins, pigs, dogs, slobs, a gay friend of John
Kasich, etc. The list
went on and on. It was a real parade of stars.
Of course the main character was Donald Trump, who
dominated the
time-of-possession game and spoke nearly 500 words
more than the next
closest competitor. In thinking about what actually
happened last
night, i.e. what was meaningful as opposed to merely
lurid and
entertaining, you have to start with the performance
of Trump, who
might just have lured the Republican Party into a
trap from which it
will
not escape.
There was clearly an effort last night by Republican
party interests
to knock Trump off his frontrunner pedestal. We saw
ambush tactics
from the start.
Bret Baier started the whole thing off by asking the
candidates to
promise they wouldn't run on a third-party ticket.
Trump declined,
highlighting his non-Republican-ness. Megyn Kelly
followed up by
asking Trump to defend his record of calling women
"fat pigs" and
"disgusting animals" and then made his probable
inability to score
female votes in a race against Hillary part of her
question.
Later questions targeted Trump's heretical views on
abortion and
health care, and his history of donating money to
the likes of
Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.
No other candidate got anything near this kind of
treatment in the
debate.
A
more typical question was Baier softballing Mike
Huckabee, asking:
"Is the government simply too big for any one
person, even a
Republican, to shrink?"
Then there was the postgame show. Fox had pollster
Frank Luntz come
on and speak with a "focus group" that expressed
concern about the
damage Trump will do to the party. One respondent
said Trump was
"splitting the
party,"
while another said, "If he runs third party,
Republicans lose. Period."
The uninspiring showing in the Luntz group
contrasted with some other
post-debate surveys, including one on the Drudge
Report showing Trump
as the clear winner of the debate.
That Fox and the other "contestants" onstage were
ganging up on Trump
was clear enough, but it hasn't stopped there. Trump
is now also
seeing a wave of punditry pieces flowing in from
traditional
conservative outlets slamming his campaign. The
National Review's
Jonah Goldberg wrote a long piece this month, "Trump
fans, it's time
for an intervention."
Stung by Trump's criticism of him as a guy who
"couldn't buy a pair
of pants," Goldberg blasted Trump as a grifter and a
RINO who is
easier to believe as a "stalking horse for his dear
friend Hillary"
than as a Republican nominee.
Meanwhile, Rich Lowry at the Review called the
debate a "fabulously
awful"
night for Trump. He slobbered over the rest of the
field. He said
Bush "made no mistakes, " Christie was "forceful,"
Carson was "winsome,"
Kasich "more of a presence than I would have
thought," and Huckabee
was "incapable of having a bad debate."
Meanwhile, Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer
gleefully declared the
debate to be the "end of Trump," saying that he
looked "lost." He's
been an ongoing critic of the Donald, along with
other Republican
stalwarts like George Will, who not long ago asked,
"If Trump were a
Democratic mole, how would his behavior be any
different?"
It's not a mystery why this is happening. Every
indicator shows that
if Trump gets the nomination, it will result in a
monster wipeout at
the hands of a Democrat like Hillary Clinton.
Moreover the
embarrassment of having to throw their weight behind
a deranged
narcissist might cripple the party for a generation.
Trump, they surely know, will make Barry Goldwater
look like Lloyd
Bentsen.
The damage he could do with a full general election
season behind the
wheel of the Republican brand is almost too awesome
to contemplate.
What the Goldbergs and the Wills and Krauthammers of
the world
probably don't get is that by singling Trump out for
abuse, they're
almost certainly boosting his campaign. First of
all, while it might
have looked like a damning image to see Trump alone
onstage with his
hand up and refusing to pledge not to run as an
Independent, on
another level it was a great Trump moment. As it has
been all season,
there was Trump, and everyone else. That scene just
made the other
nine guys onstage look like what they are, stooges
beholden to their
party and their donors, unable to think for
themselves.
The main argument of all of Trump's conservative
critics seems to be,
"He's not a real Republican! He'll destroy the party
establishment!"
The people making these criticisms seem to assume
that conservative
voters will see this as a bad thing.
But there are plenty of Tea Party-type voters out
there who hate the
Republican Party establishment almost as much as
they hate the Democrats.
There are also plenty of right-wing voters who think
George Will and
Charles Krauthammer are smug media weasels only
slightly less
disgusting than the Rachel Maddows and Keith
Olbermanns of the world.
A know-it-all is a know-it-all.
Trump's followers are a gang of pissed-off nativists
who are tired of
being laughed at, belittled, dismissed, and told who
to vote for. So
it seems incredible that the Republican
establishment thinks it's
going to get rid of Trump by laughing at, belittling
and dismissing
him, and telling his voters who they should be
picking.
These hysterical critics are making one of the
world's most
irredeemable bullies look persecuted and like a
victim, a difficult
feat. The desperation to get rid of him may just
feed more and more
into the right wing base's crazy victim complex, and
in turn get
Trump even more support.
The numbers aren't out yet, but it wouldn't surprise
me at all if the
debate last night didn't have exactly the opposite
impact that
Krauthammer and Frank Luntz and the rest of those
clowns thinks it
had.
Assuming this doesn't all end in Trump becoming
president and the
world shortly thereafter ending in nuclear
apocalypse, this twist
might end up being the funniest thing to come out of
the debate and
the campaign in general.
The Republican party and its allies at Fox, on
afternoon radio and in
the blogosphere have spent many years now whipping
audiences into
zombie-style bloodlusts. When it suited them, party
insiders told
voters across middle America that foreigners were
trying to crawl
through their windows to take their wives, and that
stuffed suits in
Washington and in the media were conspiring to
enslave their children
in
Marxist bondage.
Now all of that paranoia is backing up on them. They
created this
monster, and it's coming for them now. Trumpenstein
lives. He is
loose in the town and on his way to the doctor's
castle. We may not
be laughing two years from now, but for the time
being, man, what a show.
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Republican Assault on Trump May Only Make Him
Stronger By Matt
Taibbi, Rolling Stone
08 August 15
Party insiders ganged up on Trump in the first GOP
debate, but the
tactic may backfire ast night's debate was the
funniest political
program in our nation's history. Nothing really
comes close.
There have been moments, obviously. Bush ducking a
shoe. Admiral
Stockdale saying "Who am I? Why am I here?" Sarah
Palin being
interviewed while a man in the background beheaded
turkeys was a classic.
But for comic staying power and sheer WTF factor
last night's debate
went beyond 11. By my count there were over a dozen
genuine
laugh-out-loud moments. Mike Huckabee bringing pimps
into a
presidential debate for the first time ever was a
landmark moment.
Jeb Bush's attempt at a one-liner, "They call me
Veto Corrleone,"
made millions of adults cringe at the same time.
Then there was Megyn
Kelly's brain-busting toss to commercial near the
end:
KELLY: We have to stand you by, because after the
break, we're going
to let the candidates make their closing statements,
their final
thoughts,
and.
God.
Is it really possible we made it this far in the
television era
without reaching this point: We'll be right back -
with God!
God was really the only character missing from that
debate last night.
Almost everyone else was there, in the repartee if
not in person:
Rosie O'Donnell, LeBron James, Putin, St. Peter, St.
Reagan, Siamese
twins, pigs, dogs, slobs, a gay friend of John
Kasich, etc. The list
went on and on. It was a real parade of stars.
Of course the main character was Donald Trump, who
dominated the
time-of-possession game and spoke nearly 500 words
more than the next
closest competitor. In thinking about what actually
happened last
night, i.e. what was meaningful as opposed to merely
lurid and
entertaining, you have to start with the performance
of Trump, who
might just have lured the Republican Party into a
trap from which it
will
not escape.
There was clearly an effort last night by Republican
party interests
to knock Trump off his frontrunner pedestal. We saw
ambush tactics
from the start.
Bret Baier started the whole thing off by asking the
candidates to
promise they wouldn't run on a third-party ticket.
Trump declined,
highlighting his non-Republican-ness. Megyn Kelly
followed up by
asking Trump to defend his record of calling women
"fat pigs" and
"disgusting animals" and then made his probable
inability to score
female votes in a race against Hillary part of her
question.
Later questions targeted Trump's heretical views on
abortion and
health care, and his history of donating money to
the likes of
Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.
No other candidate got anything near this kind of
treatment in the
debate.
A
more typical question was Baier softballing Mike
Huckabee, asking:
"Is the government simply too big for any one
person, even a
Republican, to shrink?"
Then there was the postgame show. Fox had pollster
Frank Luntz come
on and speak with a "focus group" that expressed
concern about the
damage Trump will do to the party. One respondent
said Trump was
"splitting the
party,"
while another said, "If he runs third party,
Republicans lose. Period."
The uninspiring showing in the Luntz group
contrasted with some other
post-debate surveys, including one on the Drudge
Report showing Trump
as the clear winner of the debate.
That Fox and the other "contestants" onstage were
ganging up on Trump
was clear enough, but it hasn't stopped there. Trump
is now also
seeing a wave of punditry pieces flowing in from
traditional
conservative outlets slamming his campaign. The
National Review's
Jonah Goldberg wrote a long piece this month, "Trump
fans, it's time
for an intervention."
Stung by Trump's criticism of him as a guy who
"couldn't buy a pair
of pants," Goldberg blasted Trump as a grifter and a
RINO who is
easier to believe as a "stalking horse for his dear
friend Hillary"
than as a Republican nominee.
Meanwhile, Rich Lowry at the Review called the
debate a "fabulously
awful"
night for Trump. He slobbered over the rest of the
field. He said
Bush "made no mistakes, " Christie was "forceful,"
Carson was "winsome,"
Kasich "more of a presence than I would have
thought," and Huckabee
was "incapable of having a bad debate."
Meanwhile, Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer
gleefully declared the
debate to be the "end of Trump," saying that he
looked "lost." He's
been an ongoing critic of the Donald, along with
other Republican
stalwarts like George Will, who not long ago asked,
"If Trump were a
Democratic mole, how would his behavior be any
different?"
It's not a mystery why this is happening. Every
indicator shows that
if Trump gets the nomination, it will result in a
monster wipeout at
the hands of a Democrat like Hillary Clinton.
Moreover the
embarrassment of having to throw their weight behind
a deranged
narcissist might cripple the party for a generation.
Trump, they surely know, will make Barry Goldwater
look like Lloyd
Bentsen.
The damage he could do with a full general election
season behind the
wheel of the Republican brand is almost too awesome
to contemplate.
What the Goldbergs and the Wills and Krauthammers of
the world
probably don't get is that by singling Trump out for
abuse, they're
almost certainly boosting his campaign. First of
all, while it might
have looked like a damning image to see Trump alone
onstage with his
hand up and refusing to pledge not to run as an
Independent, on
another level it was a great Trump moment. As it has
been all season,
there was Trump, and everyone else. That scene just
made the other
nine guys onstage look like what they are, stooges
beholden to their
party and their donors, unable to think for
themselves.
The main argument of all of Trump's conservative
critics seems to be,
"He's not a real Republican! He'll destroy the party
establishment!"
The people making these criticisms seem to assume
that conservative
voters will see this as a bad thing.
But there are plenty of Tea Party-type voters out
there who hate the
Republican Party establishment almost as much as
they hate the Democrats.
There are also plenty of right-wing voters who think
George Will and
Charles Krauthammer are smug media weasels only
slightly less
disgusting than the Rachel Maddows and Keith
Olbermanns of the world.
A know-it-all is a know-it-all.
Trump's followers are a gang of pissed-off nativists
who are tired of
being laughed at, belittled, dismissed, and told who
to vote for. So
it seems incredible that the Republican
establishment thinks it's
going to get rid of Trump by laughing at, belittling
and dismissing
him, and telling his voters who they should be
picking.
These hysterical critics are making one of the
world's most
irredeemable bullies look persecuted and like a
victim, a difficult
feat. The desperation to get rid of him may just
feed more and more
into the right wing base's crazy victim complex, and
in turn get
Trump even more support.
The numbers aren't out yet, but it wouldn't surprise
me at all if the
debate last night didn't have exactly the opposite
impact that
Krauthammer and Frank Luntz and the rest of those
clowns thinks it
had.
Assuming this doesn't all end in Trump becoming
president and the
world shortly thereafter ending in nuclear
apocalypse, this twist
might end up being the funniest thing to come out of
the debate and
the campaign in general.
The Republican party and its allies at Fox, on
afternoon radio and in
the blogosphere have spent many years now whipping
audiences into
zombie-style bloodlusts. When it suited them, party
insiders told
voters across middle America that foreigners were
trying to crawl
through their windows to take their wives, and that
stuffed suits in
Washington and in the media were conspiring to
enslave their children
in
Marxist bondage.
Now all of that paranoia is backing up on them. They
created this
monster, and it's coming for them now. Trumpenstein
lives. He is
loose in the town and on his way to the doctor's
castle. We may not
be laughing two years from now, but for the time
being, man, what a show.
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