Miriam, Roger and All,
Absolutely! Frankly, I am tiring of suggestions that I am either
Stupid or Evil if I do not become a student of Islam. By any other
name it is still Dogma...in my mind.
It seems to me that it is long past time when Humans get past our
inflated egos, and admit that we don't have answers for
everything...even made up answers. We are a brief flash in the
Universal Time, existing on a spec of rock, on the edge of something
we named, "The Universe", which is so ancient and vast that we cannot
do more than scratch the surface of what it is all about. Pretending
we have some great knowledge, or contact with some great mind, only
gets in the way of any small gain we might make in our understanding.
We are so brief, in all of our time on this spec, that we have no
evidence that there are "absolutes", other than our present inability
to understand what is about us.
We Humans are so foolish as to believe what we do will really matter.
When our Sun dies, everything we ever accomplished will be lost
forever. No one will be around to care. We will be as if we'd never
been. Gone! And all of our foolish little strutting and posturings
will have been for nothing. And Allah and God and all of the other
Beings we've created, will vanish as if they never were. And who will
be around to record where this collections of fiery stars come to
their end? And what then? And so I suppose that it is far more
comforting to believe in Fairy Tales than to confront our own
ignorance.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/29/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree that everyone has the right to believe whatever they want and
they don't have the right to impose those beliefs on others, But that
has nothing to do with it being true. The value in demanding that people
give rational defenses of something that has nothing to do with
rationality is to expose it as irrational and invalid.
On 7/29/2017 8:59 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
My feeling is that people have a right to whatever beliefs they may have
regarding religion. However, they do not have a right to impose those
beliefs on other people. We've had discussions regarding religious belief
on
this list and certainly, that's what this list is for, - the exchange of
thoughts and discussion of differences. However, I don't see the value in
demanding that people give rational reasons for something that has
nothing
to do with rationality. I also have difficulty with people using this
list
as a means to instruct us on what they believe that we ought to believe
or
what we ought to think. I don't like being instructed in religious
beliefs
or in political theory. Discussion, yes. Lectures, no.
Miriam
