[blind-democracy] Re: Optimism, was Re: Would communism work with computers?

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:13:55 -0500

As a person who was fully sighted well into adulthood and has now spent about thirty years blind I think I can assure any blind person who thinks they are not missing a thing that they are deluding themselves. Believe me, without eyesight you are missing a lot, a whole lot.

_________________________________________________________________

Isaac Asimov
“Don't you believe in flying saucers, they ask me? Don't you believe in 
telepathy? — in ancient astronauts? — in the Bermuda triangle? — in life after 
death?
No, I reply. No, no, no, no, and again no.
One person recently, goaded into desperation by the litany of unrelieved negation, burst 
out "Don't you believe in anything?"
Yes", I said. "I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, 
and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how 
wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous 
something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be.”
―  Isaac Asimov


On 11/18/2018 5:59 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:


Not blindness, one’s individual experiences along with, I suppose, biology. As a matter of fact, I’ve known many blind people who have an extremely positive view of life and who do not feel that blindness has, in any way, affected their life negatively. I remember one woman, I think it was when I was getting the one guide dog I had, who was totally blind, who told me vehemently that she had no wish to see and if doctors said that they could restore her sight, she’d refuse because she was perfectly content as she was and she didn’t believe she was missing anything. No, it isn’t blindness. It’s the way that I, a person with partial vision, adjusted to my situation. But different people adjust differently. I’ve met people with  approximately the same amount of sight as I had, who didn’t see as much as I ddid because they didn’t use it as I did or because, perhaps, physically, it was different. Actually, maybe it’s an inheritable trait. My older daughter is pessimistic, more so than I, but not my younger daughter, whom we adopted.

Miriam

*From:* blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
*Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:40 PM
*To:* blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Optimism, was Re: Would communism work with computers?

Miriam, you are not paying attention.

I cannot now recall, (although I know it’s been several times at least), that I’ve said that I do not ignore bad news.

Did I not say that I read most of what you post here? And the proof is in the fact that I often respond to the stories you post here. I even posted a bad news story myself, from the Economist, about Jamal Khashoggi's murder, and how it looked as though it was bearing out my cynical prediction that it would probably pass without much serious consequence to Saudi Arabia, or MBS. I could certainly post more, and I may if I think it’s important; but you’ve got the darkness angle pretty much covered.

So I vehemently reject the notion you seem to have that I look for only positive stories, view the world through rose colored glasses. That is demonstrably false, false, false! I’m not going to let you mischaracterize my views in that way.

What I do in fact do is read both bad, and good, news. I actually read more bad news than good, because it really is important to know what problems exist so that we can know what they are in order to work to mitigate them. However, I also do in fact look for good stories because I think the notion that paying attention to only one side of a story is not only mentally unhealthy, it is dangerous because it leads to, what can be, a self fulfilling pessimism. I do not apologize for that.

And being blind has little or nothing to do with one’s optimism or pessimism. I have been almost totally blind since birth, and I do not feel that the world is going to hell in a handbasket. Conversely, there are many sighted people who feel as you do, and also many that feel, as I do, that while we have many serious problems, that is not the same as believing that we are doomed. I am not sure what ultimately causes people to have an either glass half full or glass half empty outlook on life, but I am highly doubtful that blindness is connected to it.

Evan

*From:*Miriam Vieni <mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Sent:*Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:46 PM

*To:*blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Subject:*[blind-democracy] Optimism, was Re: Would communism work with computers?

I guess I want to respond to Evan’s underlying charge, that I have a negative attitude, that I read only negative stories. One can, if one chooses, ignore the bad stuff and look for positive stories, look at the world through rose colored glasses. That’s a personal choice, similar to the choice of having faith that God loves us and has a reason for everything. For me, the signs of disaster are all around us and if we don’t heed them and make our choices based on reality, we not only doom ourselves, we doom succeeding generations. I imagine that my life experience has predetermined me to view life in this way. As a visually impaired person, I had to, from childhood on, understand the world in which I lived, plan ahead to be able to function effectively in that world, and never underestimate the obstacles. When I’ve been diverted from that manner of functioning, bad things have resulted. So, while I support and applaud any honest efforts to improve life for people, I’m cognizant of the dangers and difficulties. I know that human nature includes the capacity to cooperate, to love, to sacrifice for others, but it also includes the lust for power, and aggression, and rage. Therefore, I don’t assume that human institutions are benign. And I do think that we are now living in a very dangerous time in a sick and corrupted society. Aside from news articles and books, I see the problems in the everyday experiences of the people around me and in the changes that I’ve encountered in my own life. The symptoms are people’s distraction, forgetfulness, feelings of being under pressure, and the impersonal nature of the interaction between people.

Miriam

*From:* blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *On Behalf Of *Miriam Vieni
*Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:10 PM
*To:* blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

Evan,

I think it’s really nice that Amazon is increasing the wages of their workers. I imagine that, probably, they might be increasing the hourly wage to $15 for warehouse workers, if they’re lucky. One of those bad news articles to which you refer, that I read the other day, said that if the minimum wage were keeping up with our economy’s productivity and if it were comparable to its value in 1970, it would be $25, I think that was the amount. So if you had a family, a wife and one or two children, and wanted to provide a relatively comfortable life for them, nothing fancy just comfortable, could you do it on $15 an hour? I know that you read a lot and you’re very intelligent. But I think that it’s all theoretical to you. I don’t know if you have daily contact with real people who are living under our present conditions.

Miriam

*From:* blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
*Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:26 PM
*To:* blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

Oh come Miriam.

I’ve read a lot of what you post here, and if that is any guide, and I don’t see why it shouldn’t be, you spend most days consuming bad news. It’s an unbalanced news diet. Just as someone who only consumes one kind of food would not be expected to get proper nutrition, someone who only consumes one kind of news is not likely to draw trustworthy conclusions.

We are not all screwed. Didn’t you, (perhaps in an unguarded moment), post an article about how Amazon was increasing their wages?

And I am not talking about certain autocratic governments that ran what I define as a planned economy. I am talking about certain autocratic governments that ran what they themselves defined as a planned economy.

Evan

*From:*Miriam Vieni <mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Sent:*Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:10 AM

*To:*blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Subject:*[blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

I actually have more to say on the subject  because you originally said that our economy works better than a planned economy. I don’t read The Economist and therefore,I’m not thinking within the usual framework of how mainstream economists think and write. But I’m familiar with it because I hear it on the news. I certainly hear it on Marketplace on NPR which, by the way is sponsored by, (yes I know supposedly there are no sponsors), the Koch Brothers). When economists say that an economy is working well, they’re talking about it working well for business, for the stock market, for investors. We’re all supposed to assume that the rest of us will benefit. But we don’t necessarily benefit. Production is up. Output is up. Profits are up. But the workers don’t benefit, nor does the general public. The profits are re-invested into the business but only in financial terms. Stock holders profit. CEO’s profit. The business doesn’t improve working conditions or service to its customers. Games are played with its finances. Everything is financialized. Most of us can’t even understand the intricacies. One of the things I’ve been reading about for years is how we manufacture money and what that means. It’s complicated. Apparently, what it means eventually, is that we’re all screwed. It’s like global warming. The use of fossil fuels is killing us. So, for that matter, is raising cattle so we can consume all that meat. The raising of cattle produces even more CO2 than the fossil fuels. But all those corporations are making money and they’re officers are living well. So we’ll fight wars to keep control of oil supplies. Oh, and by the way, fighting those wars is also bad for the environment. So people can be wealthy and live high on the hog now, and to hell with the future. My point is that talking about economic systems and saying that our “mixed” economy works better than a “planned” economy, makes no sense to me. It depends on what you mean by “works better”. And the other thing is that when you say that, are you actually talking about the economy, or are you thinking about particular autocratic governments that had, what you define as”a planned economy”? Just suppose, if Cuba had been treated as a friendly country after its revolution, if it had been left alone and had set up a socialist economic system, if the US had had normal economic relations with it, that planned economy might have done really well. Castro would not have had to be as authoritarian because he wouldn’t have been under threat of US invasion or his own assassination. It’s hard to know what a real socialist economy in a truly democratic country would be like because the western nations have never permitted such a thing to exist.

Miriam

*From:* blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
*Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:28 PM
*To:* blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

It is a mixed economy. That is, certain aspects are planned, but certain aspects are not.

If you believe our economy is anything like the kind of planned economy Roger is talking about, I think you are not understanding what he means by that.

Nobody is sitting in some central ministry somewhere and deciding how many boxes of cereal should be produced.

Nobody is sitting in some central ministry somewhere and deciding how many cars should be produced.

I could go on with a few million more examples, but I think it is clear enough.

Our economy is not planned in anything like the way Roger is thinking of.

Evan

*From:*Miriam Vieni <mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Sent:*Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:14 PM

*To:*blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Subject:*[blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

Evan,

From everything I read, we have a planned economy. It is planned and structured to benefit the wealthy. Just read a bit about how the IMF deals with developing countries. Look at our tax structure. Look at how the international banking system works. Think about all those meetings like the G 7, G 20, Davos, etc. Look at the world population or even, just at the US population, at the percentage of people whose health, housing,  nutritional, and educational  needs are  met. The economic inequality isn’t accidental. The fact that you feel that you are part of a sector of humanity whose needs are met, doesn’t mean that our economic system is working properly or that it is unplanned.

Miriam

*From:* blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
*Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:27 PM
*To:* blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

So far at least, despite all of its shortcomings, and there are many, the unplanned economy has done quite a lot better than any planned ones I’ve heard about.

Perhaps, at some future date, with sufficiently powerful computers, a planned economy might work. But I would have a hard time trusting the people in charge of the computers doing the planning.

Evan

*From:*Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC) <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Sent:*Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:53 PM

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*Subject:*[blind-democracy] Re: Would communism work with computers?

Well, I don't think this author quite understands what Marx was all about and he really goes wrong when he equates Stalinism with communism as if there is no other choice, but he still hits on a few things that can be agreed on. I have answered you claims that communism could not work by pointing out that for the majority of time that humans existed it was the only economic model, but primitive communism is still not something that we would want to return to. Even though prehistoric people participated in a communist economy they didn't know it. They had no concept of economy and one thing they did not do was plan their economy unless you count something like storing up food for the winter. Capitalism is not a planned economy either. Oh, the federal reserve may fiddle with the interest rates or tax policy may be changed with claims of definite effects, but the real effects are not even close to the effects claimed in the rhetoric. What we need is an economy planned with human needs in mind and without profit as a motive. Marx, lenin and others have had a lot to say about how that should be done, but it is unquestionable that they did not have computers. Computers have become a lot more powerful than they used to be and are becoming even more powerful. In the past economic planners could use pencil and paper to make calculations and then came adding machines and then came computers which are primitive by today's standards. By the way, I remember reading a book from the NLS called Stonehenge Explained. Without digressing too much into what it was all about I will just say that the author used what he considered an extremely advanced computer to make calculations about the rocks that make up Stonehenge. He raved about that computer that he used in the early sixties that took up a whole building and that he had to apply for time on and had to wait for months. Most of us now have home desktop computers that are many times more powerful than that one. So when doing economic planning we really should take advantage of whatever tools that we have available to us and I am sure that these computers can make that planning many times more efficient than Marx or Lenin ever imagined. One of Lenin's more famous quotations was, "Soviet power and electrification equals communism." I doubt that he literally believed that. It was more of a political slogan meant to emphasize the importance of bringing electricity to the Russian people. And, like I said, Russia was something of a backward country at the time of the revolution. There were very many areas where no one had ever seen a light bulb and bringing electricity to the masses was a high priority. That has been mostly accomplished. I suppose there might still be s few outposts in the backwoods of the Russian territory that still don't have electricity, but that would be very rare. The essential technology now is the computer. It just could be that a world soviet power combined with the use of computers for an economy that would be geared toward human needs rather than profit would equal communism.

_________________________________________________________________
Isaac Asimov
“Don't you believe in flying saucers, they ask me? Don't you believe in 
telepathy? — in ancient astronauts? — in the Bermuda triangle? — in life after 
death?
No, I reply. No, no, no, no, and again no.
One person recently, goaded into desperation by the litany of unrelieved negation, burst 
out "Don't you believe in anything?"
Yes", I said. "I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, 
and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how 
wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous 
something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be.”
―  Isaac Asimov

On 11/12/2018 10:21 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

    Roger, I found this while looking for something else. It’s
    something I saved and then forgot about. It’s speculative, but
    thought you, and perhaps others here, might find some interest in it.

    Evan

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122568/what-if-stalin-had-computers


      What If Stalin Had Computers?


        A new book contemplates the end of capitalism (again)—it's a
        nice story, but a terrible plan


              ByMalcolm Harris
              
<http://www.newrepublic.com/authors/malcolm-harris>@bigmeaninternet
              <https://twitter.com/bigmeaninternet>

    *W*hen will capitalism end? It’s not a new idea, and even the
    capitalists suspect it will happen. After all, every other mode of
    production has fallen, and capitalism isn’t a steady-state system.
    It simply isn’t built to stay the same. As firms incorporate new
    technologies, capacity increases per-capita, and jobs change, so
    too does the nature of commodities and consumption. It happened
    with the assembly line, and it’s happening again with information
    technology. In 1930, John Maynard Keynes famouslypredicted
    <http://www.econ.yale.edu/smith/econ116a/keynes1.pdf>these trends
    would reduce everyone’s daily toil to part-time by now, while Karl
    Marx thought the same developments would compel workers to seize
    the whole system and abolish wage-labor in general. But the system
    still lives.

    If the history of postcapitalism so far is a repeating chorus
    asking “Are we there yet?”, then the new book from Channel 4
    economics editor Paul Mason,/Postcapitalism: A Guide to Our
    Future/, is a reassuring “Almost!” from the front seat. Like a
    good co-pilot, Mason keeps his eyes on his indicators, and he has
    the end in sight. Or at least on his graphs. How the transition
    might occur is less important than that it must.

    *M*arxist economics is not a vibrant field within the anglophone
    academy or public sphere. Even Thomas Piketty’s best selling
    import,/Capital in the Twenty-First Century/, didn’t take much
    more than a good title from the communists. Mason is an oddity, as
    an economics commentator of some stature (at least in the UK,
    where he has been an economics/business editor since 2001) who
    believes that labor is the source of all value. He spends much of
    the first half of/Postcapitalism/redeeming the work of heterodox
    Soviet economist Nikolai Kondtratieff, whose model of 50-year
    four-phase market cycles is Mason’s preferred historical gauge.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    The Kondtratieff wave explanation is an intuitive way to look at
    200 years of economic history: In Mason’s telling, industrial
    capitalism has completed four cycles since 1790, driven by the
    interrelated processes of technological innovation, global
    expansion, capital investment, and not least by labor struggles.
    The story a cycle goes more or less like this: Capitalists
    incorporate new productive technology, sharing the proceeds with
    workers; profits slow and workers fight with their bosses as firms
    try to depress labor costs; when capitalists can’t find any more
    savings, they’re forced to incorporate new technology and start
    the cycle over. Despite its Soviet origins, mainstream British and
    American economists have found the model useful for describing how
    capitalism manages to persist.

    The problem is we seem to have broken the cycle. Where workers
    should have been able to leverage their power for higher living
    standards, capital instead outsourced production, smashed unions,
    captured the regulators, and expanded money supply by unpegging
    the dollar from gold. Mason calls this counter-cyclical move
    “neoliberalism,” and it’s a helpful definition for a term
    sometimes used carelessly to refer to anything bad and capitalist.
    Kondratieff described a dance between capital and labor that was
    theoretically sustainable—a heresy that did not go over well with
    Stalin, who felt that the proletariat was only days from halting
    the waltz.

    As it turned out, Stalin was wrong and capital broke up with
    labor, not the other way around. Mason calls our current situation
    the “long, disrupted wave”: The lights are on, and Kondratieff’s
    dance is over. This isn’t the only relationship that’s broken;
    capitalist economics is incompatible with information technology,
    Mason claims. As the supply of some commodities (like music files)
    becomes infinite, price-setting becomes arbitrary and
    unsustainable. How do you measure the amount of labor in
    replicable file? The adaptable system of production that
    Kondratieff saw from the other side is sinking. “The most highly
    educated generation in the history of the human race, and the best
    connected,” Mason writes, “will not accept a future of high
    inequality and stagnant growth.”

    /Postcapitalism/really begins here, at the bargaining table with
    capital and labor looking for a plan that will settle their
    differences once and for all. If the world is headed for imminent
    ecological collapse, then to continue on with our current
    capitalist mode of production is suicide. Maximizing actors don’t
    kill themselves, so the operative question is what to do next. How
    can we maintain people’s standards of living while socializing
    production, reducing labor, saving the environment, and making the
    best use of new technology? Mason has some ideas.

    *T*he book really comes into its own when Mason addresses the
    possibilities of contemporary planning. He does not go as far as
    to endorse “cyber Stalinism” but at the very least poses its
    thesis: What if the problem with the Soviet Union was that it was
    too early? What if our computer processing power and behavioral
    data are developed enough now that central planning could
    outperform the market when it comes to the distribution of goods
    and services?

    If you raised your hand and said this in an American ECON100
    class, you’d be laughed out of the room, so Mason as prominent
    public employee deserves a lot of credit for bringing it this far
    into the English-speaking mainstream. The possible socialized uses
    of technology is an exciting can of worms. Using large sets of
    behavior and population data, capitalist firms like Amazon and
    Google have developed predictive capacities that would make Soviet
    cyberneticians weep with joy. Capitalism says that the best use of
    this capacity is to sell people stuff, but parts of this process
    are so socially unproductive and unnecessary—we don’t just have
    clickbait sites, we have third-rate clickbait sites—that it can’t
    possibly be the case.

    “Imagine if Walmart or Tesco were prepared to publish their
    customer data (suitably anonymized) for free,” Mason writes.
    “Society would benefit: everybody from farmers to epidemiologists
    could mine the data, and make more accurate decisions.” This is
    just the beginning; remaking productive machinery in the
    collective interest means driving necessary labor down as far as
    possible with data analytics and self-management. Why can’t a
    meatpacking factory function like a web startup, with room for
    autonomy and achievement targets instead of required hours? It’s
    fun to imagine how we could do better than capitalism if we all
    decided to, especially if no one had to worry about creating and
    maintaining false scarcity around info-tech goods.

    The best existing example I can think of for the kind of
    efficiencies Mason predicts is the difference between Netflix and
    Popcorn Time. Netflix is, of course, the $28 billion media
    streaming company with over 2000 employees.Popcorn Time
    
<http://qz.com/344394/hollywood-should-be-very-afraid-of-popcorn-time-the-netflix-for-pirates/>is
    a legally shady alternative that streams media torrents over a
    clean ad-less interface. It’s a functional and free alternative,
    what economists would call a replacement good. Popcorn Time makes
    no money, and has a staff of 20 around the world who volunteer
    their labor part-time. Netflix is (as a streaming company) a
    near-total waste of time. Those 2000-plus workers could be
    developing a nutritious Slurpee and designing a distribution
    infrastructure. Or babysitting. Hell, they could be lowering the
    collective labor burden enough so everyone has time to masturbate
    one extra time a year, and it would still be more socially useful
    than charging rent for access to digital content.

    In Mason’s telling, postcapitalism involves an abundance of
    resources, including free time. Without capitalism’s wastefulness,
    we can refashion the world to allow human potential and creativity
    to blossom. It’s an enjoyable thought experiment, but capitalists
    are not looking to make a deal. Given the choice, I have no doubt
    that the ownership class will literally abandon the planet Earth
    before they surrender capitalism. Bosses no longer negotiate with
    organized labor if they can avoid it; they’d rather make a blanket
    offer to all workers as individuals: Work and/or starve. Violence
    and coercion don’t play much of a role in/Postcapitalism/, but
    that’s not true of capitalism. Huge, advanced police forces ensure
    this is the deal whether people “accept” it (as Mason says) or not.

    Imaginative as it is,/Postcapitalism/is not a revolutionary book.
    As Malcolm Xobserved
    
<http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/message-to-grassroots/>very
    clearly of revolution after revolution: “What was it for? Land!
    How did they get it? Bloodshed!” Capitalists understand this
    principle very well, and their state proxies are well-armed. The
    vanguard movements of postcapitalism that Mason identifies—the
    global occupy sequence, Brazilian World Cup protesters, fracking
    blockaders—have all been forced out of whatever territory they
    were able to take temporarily, and that’s with the authorities
    exercising significant restraint relative to their capabilities.
    Since postcapitalism doesn’t detail the “How?”, it doesn’t have to
    answer “How do we kill that many cops?”

    There’s a reason Marxists—even heterodox ones—don’t usually
    speculate on how to arrange communism: Marxsays not to
    
<https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm#2a>.
    “Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be
    established, an ideal to which reality will have to adjust
    itself,” he writes with Engels in/The German Ideology/. “We call
    communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of
    things.” Not even Marx claimed to know what communism will look
    like, but he knew it would have to destroy capitalism first.

    It’s hard to follow Marx into his beautifully hopeful “will have
    been” idea of history without thinking he’s doing some
    sword-in-the-stone prophecy, but he nonetheless reveals important
    problems with postcapitalism. I cannot imagine the real movement
    that could, in retrospect, validate Mason’s version of history.
    The true qualities of capitalism, including the weak points where
    it finally fails, will only be visible in the shadow of whatever
    social force destroys it. The people Mason describes,/at least as
    motivated and defined by the historical factors he
    describes/(education, connection, stagnant wages), do not seem
    willing or able to confront the system at the necessary scale or
    with the required intensity. To borrow a perspective from Marx, I
    do not believe Mason’s theory of capitalism will have been the case.

    The true story of capitalism, like all social forms, will be
    written in its ashes. Until then, a theory of historical necessity
    and a couple bucks will get you a cup of coffee. Mason criticizes
    leftists for being against things that exist instead of for things
    that could be, but the position of the cart in relation to the
    horse isn’t up for sensible debate. Postcapitalism is still one
    revolution away.

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