You mean they are not doing that already?
Frank
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Refuses to Pardon Edward Snowden. Trump's
New CIA Pick Wants Him Dead.
If they start monitoring email lists, we're in for trouble, even people whose
last name is Jarvis.
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:33 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Refuses to Pardon Edward Snowden.
Trump's New CIA Pick Wants Him Dead.
Name after name comes rolling off the Trump pipeline. Not since Pandora's Box
has anything looked so ugly. With the addition of Mike Pompeo, Trump's choice
for director of the CIA, can there still be those who believe we are not in for
a major national witch hunt? Just hope your skin is White and your name is
something akin to Jones or Smith.
Carl Jarvis(a good old white English name)
On 11/19/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
point."
Excerpt: "President Obama Indicated on Friday that he won't pardon NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden, even as President-elect Donald Trump
announced his pick to run the CIA: Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo, who
has called for 'the traitor Edward Snowden' to be executed."
President Barack Obama. (photo: Getty Images)
Obama Refuses to Pardon Edward Snowden. Trump's New CIA Pick Wants Him
Dead.
By Alex Emmons and Naomi LaChance, The Intercept
19 November 16
President Obama indicated on Friday that he won't pardon NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden, even as President-elect Donald Trump
announced his pick to run the CIA: Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo, who
has called for "the traitor Edward Snowden" to be executed.
Pompeo has supported nearly unfettered NSA surveillance, has blamed
Muslim leaders for condoning terror, and is one of the most hyperbolic
members of Congress when it comes to describing the Islamic State,
which he has called "an existential threat to America" and "the most
lethal and powerful terrorist group ever to have existed."
In an interview with Obama published on Friday, German newspaper Der
Spiegel
asked: "Are you going to pardon Edward Snowden?" Obama replied: "I
can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented
themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this
But P.S. Ruckman, editor of the Pardon Power blog said Obama is wronglegislative control."
to suggest he couldn't pardon Snowden if he wanted to. Ruckman noted
that Obama has previously only granted pardons and commutations to
people who have already been convicted. "I just think what he may have
better said is: 'I prefer that he present himself to a court and then
we'll talk turkey.' But technically in terms of the Constitution,
there are no restrictions at all."
The operative Supreme Court ruling, from 1886, states that "The power
of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is
unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence
known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its
commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their
pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject
to
Obama said that although Snowden "raised some legitimate concerns," hecommunity."
"did not follow the procedures and practices of our intelligence
Obama also suggested that the debate is between people holding twoleaders of that faith,"
extremist
positions: people who "think we can take a 100-percent absolutist
approach to protecting privacy" and "those who think that security is
the only thing and don't care about privacy."
Very few people actually occupy either extreme. But Pompeo, a
three-term congressman and former Army officer, is about as close as
it comes to the latter.
In a 2014 letter, Pompeo accused Snowden of "intentional distortion of
truth that he and his media enablers have engaged in." Pompeo supports
virtually no legal barriers to having the NSA spy on Americans, and
has alarmed civil liberties advocates with many of the positions he
has taken while serving on the House Intelligence Committee. Not only
has he argued that the NSA should resume its phone records program, he
has called on Congress to "pass a law re-establishing collection of
all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and
lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database."
"What's needed is a fundamental upgrade to America's surveillance
capabilities," reads a Wall Street Journal piece Pompeo co-wrote in
January.
Pompeo is also a staunch defender of the prison at Guantanamo Bay,
calling it an "important national asset," and repeatedly arguing that
closing the facility would endanger Americans. He has also defended
CIA torturers, saying that "these men and women are not torturers,"
and that "the programs being used were within the law." He called the
exhaustive, 6,000-page Senate torture report "some liberal game being
played by the ACLU and Sen.
Feinstein."
Civil liberties groups immediately expressed concern about Pompeo as
CIA director. The position requires Senate confirmation.
"Congressman Pompeo's positions on bulk surveillance and Guantanamo
Bay also raise serious civil liberties concerns about privacy and due
process," the ACLU said in a statement. "These positions and others
merit serious public scrutiny through a confirmation process. His
positions on mass surveillance have been rejected by federal courts
and have been the subject of several lawsuits filed by the ACLU."
Pompeo has also accused Islamic faith leaders of being "potentially
complicit" in the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing. "When the most
devastating terrorist attacks on America in the last 20 years come
overwhelmingly from people of a single faith, and are performed in the
name of that faith, a special obligation falls on those that are the
Pompeo said in a speech on the House floor. "Instead of responding,point."
silence has made these Islamic leaders across America potentially
complicit in these acts and more importantly still, in those that may
well follow."
Because numerous Islamic leaders had in fact condemned the attack, the
Council on American Islamic issued a letter calling his remarks "false
and irresponsible," and urged him to publicly correct them.
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President Barack Obama. (photo: Getty Images)
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refuses-to-pardon-edward-snowden-trumps-new-cia-pick-wants-him-dead/
Obama Refuses to Pardon Edward Snowden. Trump's New CIA Pick Wants Him
Dead.
By Alex Emmons and Naomi LaChance, The Intercept
19 November 16
resident Obama indicated on Friday that he won't pardon NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden, even as President-elect Donald Trump
announced his pick to run the CIA: Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo, who
has called for "the traitor Edward Snowden" to be executed.
Pompeo has supported nearly unfettered NSA surveillance, has blamed
Muslim leaders for condoning terror, and is one of the most hyperbolic
members of Congress when it comes to describing the Islamic State,
which he has called "an existential threat to America" and "the most
lethal and powerful terrorist group ever to have existed."
In an interview with Obama published on Friday, German newspaper Der
Spiegel
asked: "Are you going to pardon Edward Snowden?" Obama replied: "I
can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented
themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this
But P.S. Ruckman, editor of the Pardon Power blog said Obama is wronglegislative control."
to suggest he couldn't pardon Snowden if he wanted to. Ruckman noted
that Obama has previously only granted pardons and commutations to
people who have already been convicted. "I just think what he may have
better said is: 'I prefer that he present himself to a court and then
we'll talk turkey.' But technically in terms of the Constitution,
there are no restrictions at all."
The operative Supreme Court ruling, from 1886, states that "The power
of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is
unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence
known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its
commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their
pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject
to
Obama said that although Snowden "raised some legitimate concerns," hecommunity."
"did not follow the procedures and practices of our intelligence
Obama also suggested that the debate is between people holding twoleaders of that faith,"
extremist
positions: people who "think we can take a 100-percent absolutist
approach to protecting privacy" and "those who think that security is
the only thing and don't care about privacy."
Very few people actually occupy either extreme. But Pompeo, a
three-term congressman and former Army officer, is about as close as
it comes to the latter.
In a 2014 letter, Pompeo accused Snowden of "intentional distortion of
truth that he and his media enablers have engaged in." Pompeo supports
virtually no legal barriers to having the NSA spy on Americans, and
has alarmed civil liberties advocates with many of the positions he
has taken while serving on the House Intelligence Committee. Not only
has he argued that the NSA should resume its phone records program, he
has called on Congress to "pass a law re-establishing collection of
all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and
lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database."
"What's needed is a fundamental upgrade to America's surveillance
capabilities," reads a Wall Street Journal piece Pompeo co-wrote in
January.
Pompeo is also a staunch defender of the prison at Guantanamo Bay,
calling it an "important national asset," and repeatedly arguing that
closing the facility would endanger Americans. He has also defended
CIA torturers, saying that "these men and women are not torturers,"
and that "the programs being used were within the law." He called the
exhaustive, 6,000-page Senate torture report "some liberal game being
played by the ACLU and Sen.
Feinstein."
Civil liberties groups immediately expressed concern about Pompeo as
CIA director. The position requires Senate confirmation.
"Congressman Pompeo's positions on bulk surveillance and Guantanamo
Bay also raise serious civil liberties concerns about privacy and due
process," the ACLU said in a statement. "These positions and others
merit serious public scrutiny through a confirmation process. His
positions on mass surveillance have been rejected by federal courts
and have been the subject of several lawsuits filed by the ACLU."
Pompeo has also accused Islamic faith leaders of being "potentially
complicit" in the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing. "When the most
devastating terrorist attacks on America in the last 20 years come
overwhelmingly from people of a single faith, and are performed in the
name of that faith, a special obligation falls on those that are the
Pompeo said in a speech on the House floor. "Instead of responding,
silence has made these Islamic leaders across America potentially
complicit in these acts and more importantly still, in those that may
well follow."
Because numerous Islamic leaders had in fact condemned the attack, the
Council on American Islamic issued a letter calling his remarks "false
and irresponsible," and urged him to publicly correct them.
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