[blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:16:20 -0400

I suppose that Americans are like everyone else. They can be easily
manipulated by government lies. But it's important to remember that when the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked in September 2001, almost
3,000 Americans were killed. Americans are unaccustomed to be attacked. The
last physical attack we'd had was on Pearl harbor in 1941 and that wasn't on
our mainland. The attack on the World Trade Center was on the financial
center of the country. It was a terrible shock and it frightened people. It
was done in the name of Islam. The people in our government who had been
wanting to take military action in the Mid East for years were able to use
everyone's shock and fear in order to put their previous plans into action.
And in order to do that, they had to keep Americans frightened of Islam.
They have everyone so frightened of another attack that Americans have given
up civil liberties and freedoms in order to stay safe.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abdulah aga
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 5:43 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?


Hi Miriam

I know that government don't hate Muslim,

I know that government do it because of oil,

this is what I say,

that Israel is stupid, to have still war with Palestine,

and making allies with USA and Uropien country instead with on naber.

I wander when oil gon who will protect Israel?

this is all because of control and profit.

I know that would bee same way if is there crschen.

Governments would behave same way.

What I don't understen is

Americken ordinaly people,

how com they are can't understen where problem:

they are should know that thing with muslim is jus game about profit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 1:27 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?

Abdulah,

Not all Americans hate Muslims. Many are just frightened and they are
influenced by our government's propaganda. Our government does what it does,
not because it hates Muslims, but because it wants to control the world and
particularly, the world's oil. The gunman in Oregon killed the people
because they were Christian. He was, apparently, an atheist. What Carl has
been saying to you is that over the years, different groups of people have
been scapegoated wtihin the US; Asians, Jews, Communists, African Americans
still are, Irish, Italian, and now, Muslims.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abdulah aga
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:09 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?


Hi Miriam

If USA did that in Israel or in some western country,

like in Afghanistan with hospital some one all ready would bee punish,

but if they are did in Afghanistan with Muslim population then who care,

because USA people is prepare to kill most as possible Muslim people,

more kill better for USA people and les terrorist on world,

this is what for USA people prepare for last 15 yare.

We have to face reality,

don't you have good examples of shuding in Origen?

if men who make massacre in Origen

if he have name Associate with Islamic name we would have all information
about him,

but men who do it in Origen

was Wight that is one more good for him because

he was born in how American people say or like to say in grate Brittan that
why we don't have any

information about him.

-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:22 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?

The administration did eventually say that there will be an invesstigation
of the attack on the hospital. That was far short of an apology because
apparently, an apology might give the impression that perhaps we did
something truly wrong. But the promise of an investigation was, at least, a
tacit admission that something happened that, perhaps, should have not.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:31 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?

Good Monday Morning Abdulah and All Eager Listers.
Here it is, the First Monday in October. The day our unbiased Supreme Court
convenes to once again uphold our Constitution and keep us all safe from
Terror.
Another historic event on this glorious day, an agreement has been reached
on the long awaited TPP. Once signed, we peons will have a much better
definition of our place in this emerging International Corporate
Empire(ICE).
But one item I seem to have missed. I heard our President's impassioned
speech concerning the mass murders in Roseburg, Oregon, at the UCC, but
where is his outcry of rage over the murder of Doctor's Without Borders and
their patients in the hospital in Afghanistan?
Are we really expected to believe that our Prince of Peace, Barak Obama, is
going along with the imbecilic fabrication that this mass murder was simply
"collateral damage"?
Or is he going to wait until the smoke clears and anger subsides, to tell us
how sad he is.
Abdulah, that is what I mean by Americans being conditioned in how we
receive information. We are fed certain information in a way to elicit the
desired response. And the response is always directed toward our Nation
being the Greatest Nation Ever! We are conditioned to accept the Fairy Tale
that we are the World's Peace Keepers. Such messages are woven throughout
our daily feeding of what we call "News". We have been trained to ignore
the items that do not fit our Fairy Tale. So we can read about a hospital
being destroyed and innocent people murdered, while believing that it is
simply a mistake or collateral damage. That is because we've been
conditioned to accept our Peace-Loving Nature, so of course we would never
do such a thing intentionally.
And so, woven into our "Make Believe World", is the thread that Terrorists
are wanting to plunder our glorious Land of Plenty. And those Terrorists
are Muslims. Of course they used to be Japanese and Nazis and then
Communists from the hated Soviet Union. At times the Terrorists are Black,
and at other times they are Jews. While we get along with the Arabs, we
don't really trust them.
And on it goes. lies like silken threads, woven through our so called news.
Abdulah, our greatest weapon is our ability to think. That ability is being
constantly attacked.
Our greatest enemy is within our nation's borders. It is the Mass Media.
When radio, and later TV, became the transporter of our news, surrounded by
sponsors lying through their teeth to shake our dollars loose, we had begun
to allow ourselves to be taken over. Is it too late to turn back? Only
time will tell.

Carl Jarvis





On 10/4/15, abdulah aga <abdulahhasic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Hi

Carl you say Frankly, we have been conditioned on how to receive
information.

what information?

is it information to hear each time when is massacre if is not name
associate with Muslim or Islamic then is mental ealnes?

but if is name associate with Islamic name he muss bee terrorist even
if he

don't know what that mean or if is his motives something ales, but
steel he

is terrorist by USA media.

Carl why we don't have complete investigation?

if you don't know I do know,

because he is white and more good thinks for him he is from how
American say

grate Brittan,
that why we will never know what is happened in Oregon.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 8:17 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Mental illness or terrorism?

Exactly so, Roger. As you have pointed out so many times, words have
real power.
Following my recent medical procedure, an ablation of the heart, a
friend dropped by and commented that I was looking alert in a very
relaxed way. I took it as an attempt to let me know that I was
looking much improved.
After he took off, I turned to Cathy and beamed. "I'm a fast healer.
Sturdy Pioneer stock does it." Cathy said, "Alert in a relaxed way?
You have your pants unbuckled and your zipper down, and your hair
looks like a herd of ducks slept there all night."
Suddenly I had lost that feeling of well-being and told Cathy, "Think
I'll hobble to bed and take a nap".
Whether we admit it or not, we subconsciously respond to words. Some
words have broad definitions and can be used to guide our thinking.
Some words have very different meanings for each of us, and must be
used carefully in order to be effective. Often the first verbal
impression sets a tone that is hard to overcome. A local TV reporter
put it this way. "Are Seattle teachers putting their own demands
ahead of their students well being? As teachers turn their backs on
their duties, harried parents scramble to find safe care for their
children."
No one said the teachers had no right in demanding a decent wage, but
I had the impression of a bunch of hard faced men and women turning
away from little children who are weeping and begging to be taught.
And how many of us have been one of those harried parents? I put in
my time as a single parent.
Each of us responds to this news item from our own experiences. But
most of us will be feeling empathy for the harried parents and worried
over the safety of the children. The teachers become just a bit more
removed from our sympathies. And yet, many of these teachers are
parents. Some are single parents. They are struggling to provide for
their children, too. But by the words chosen, and the emphasis placed
on the harried parents and the children's safety, these teachers
become "things" rather than equal members of the community.
Frankly, we have been conditioned on how to receive information.
Until we decide that it is our responsibility to think about what is
being fed us, and why, we will go along, being tugged this way and
that without ever understanding that we are being played like puppets
on a string.

Carl Jarvis
On 10/4/15, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when one of these mass shootings is
perpetrated by a white guy it is always explained as mental illness
and when the perpetrator is anyone else it is terrorism?













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