Miriam, look at the voting record of the democratic congress. They refused to
vote with Obama. If anyone was timid it was the congress and not the president.
Remember Obama got reelected and the democratic congress did not.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:01 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
There was a Democratic majority in Congress in 2009 and Obama had tremendous
popularity when he was elected. The loss of that Democratic majority in
congress was related to public disenchantment relatedd to Obama's timidity in
taking bold action on behalf of middle income and low income Americans.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:11 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Bob, I agree with all you have said below except for the part about popular
wind at his back in 2009. The wind he needed was from congress and the supreme
court and he had neither. Like I said I agree with most of what you say but I
don't believe he ever had the wind at his back.
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:51 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Hey Frank,
I left this intact since it got lost in a bunch of other list mail and I'm over
two weeks late in replying.
Firstly, I'd have never appointed the likes of Geithner, Summers and especially
the slimy Rahm Emanuel.If Obama were really the progressive he claimed to be in
the 2008 campaign, he should have appointed someone more like Robert Reich as
secretary of the Treasury.
Did you ever get the chance to read a book entitled "Confidence Men" by
Suskind? That book tells the sad tail of how Obama was co-opted by the bankster
class. In one poignant section, Obama is having lunch with a few of the women
on his staff who are are calling him out for not paying very much attension to
their points of view in favor of the views of Geithner, Summers and Emanuel.
Obama says something like:
"I know Rahm is an asshole, but I need him." IMHO, that makes Obama a wimpy
professor to the core of his soul if he still has one.
Like I've said before, Obama was dealt a bad hand. But, if he'd acted more
quickly and decisively in 2009, he had the opportunity to be a truly
transformational president. For a short time, he had the popular wind at his
back.
Bob Hachey
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:51 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Bob, revolution would only lead to totalitarianism, as history has proven.
We need evolution. Since you think Democratic leadership has failed if you were
Obama what would you have done differently?
Honestly given your stance concerning civil rights and anti-discrimination, I
am shocked that you would be in favor of a revolution which would erase the
aforementioned.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 4:31 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Hi Frank,
Assuming what you say about Stein and the Greens is true and I have no evidence
to suggest otherwise, then none of the presidential candidates give a hoot
about the working class so that we who do ought to be working against all of
them and for real change otherwise known as revolution.
Given the recent history of Democratic leadership, how can you continue to
support them?
Bob Hachey
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Bob, first of all non of those people have or are trying to put the GOP in
office, which is what the green party is doing. Also you forgot to mention
Stein's personal opulence. Remember the Green party was founded by and for
alternative energy investors that believed strongly that the labor movement,
unions and the FLSA were outdated and needed to be replaced. Although the green
party platform may look attractive to the welfare class and the liberal elite
class; it is really a smack to the working class that is caught in between. But
heck the working class is an endangered species anyway and no one wants to
waste resources courting a class of people that may not exist a few years from
now.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:07 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Hi Frank,
So, it is your opinion that the green Party are shills for the GOP. Where does
that put the Democratic leadership like the Clintons, Wasserman/Shultz, Al
Gore, John Kerry, etc. All of them sure have talked a good game about how they
support the working class while their actions suggest they are very quick to
utilize the privileges of wealth and connection.
Sad to say, but, in many ways, Obama fits into this group as well. I had very
high hopes for Obama when I voted for him in 2008, perhaps too high.
But he chose to surround himself with some of the worst scum of Wall Street and
high finance like Summers and Geithner.When he first took office, the wind was
at his back and he had the support of a majority of Americans. If he'd planned
it right, he might have been able to be a transformational president like FDR.
I do realize that Congress fought him tooth and nail, but he did have a
majority in both houses including a filibuster-proof Senate for the first two
years.
AS for Al Gore, he talks a good game when it comes to the environment, but he
loves to travel about in private jets and luxury vehicles.
Kerry, Mr. yacht decided to moore his yacht in Rhode island on one hand while
proposing higher taxes for the wealthy on the other.
The Clintons fought for NAFTA, welfare reform and the horrible get tough on
Crime bill that sentenced users of crack cocaine mush more harshly than users
of snortable powder cocaine. They are also known for not treating the help,
cooks, cleaners, maids, etc. with respect.
How on earth could the green party be worse?
Bob Hachey
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:41 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Bob, I spent much time (and money) traveling down that green brick road and let
me tell you it doesn't lead to the Emarld city. It actually leads right out the
Hamptons, if you catch my drift. A GOP schill is a GOP schill.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:37 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Hi Frank,
While I agree with you on concerns over providing security for high profile
types in a disaster area like Batton Rouge, I must also agree with Miriam that
Stein cares more about disaster victims and the poor than either Clinton or
Trump. You really do seem to have it in for the Green Party Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:04 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Hey Frank,
Good point here regarding Louisiana's governor who did indeed ask high profile
types to delay visiting Batton Rouge. But I think Trump also went against his
wishes.
Bob Hachey ; I heard
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:40 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
All lies below. The governor of Louisiana asked all the campaigns and the
president to delay coming to the affected areas to avoid the media and security
juggernaut from being an impediment to movement of first responders and aid.
Evidentially only the green party did not respond to this reasonable request.
Hopefully you don't think an election year media circus would be better than
first responders and aid workers.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:21 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
And while Jill Stein was visiting flood victims this weekend, Hillary Clinton
was doing fund raising. If she's so smart, why didn't it occur to her that she
might visit the flood victims. Perhaps because by now, it doesn't matter to the
campaign what the public thinks of her? And if it doesn't matter, why does she
need to do all that fund raising for advertising? They had the mothers of the
slain black young people at the convention. Why not have her cradling a black
child in a house destroyed by a flood in Louisiana? Obama, Clinton, they're so
damn entitled that they can't take time off from their very busy lives to
pretend to be humanitarians.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:05 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jill Stein Speaks With Victims of Louisiana's
Catastrophic Flood-and Those Trying to Help Them
Well, President Obama finally did arrive for a tour. But of course, despite
charges that he was tardy in rushing to the scene, his detractors did not
appear to be digging deep into their off shore accounts to help those whose
homes had been destroyed without the benefit of flood insurance. What was
missing in the President's comments was how swiftly resources will be available
and to what extent. Can the USA do for it's own citizens what it is so quick
to do for certain foreign governments?
Carl Jarvis
By Molly Hennessy-Fiske and Christi Parsons AUGUST 23, 2016, 1:15 PMAUGUST 23,
2016, 1:15 PM |REPORTING FROM ZACHARY, LA.
President Obama tried to set aside politics Tuesday in favor of pointing to the
plight of victims of the devastating floods in Louisiana as he underscored the
importance of an effective and quick federal disaster response.
Obama toured ravaged homes and talked with relatives of some of the 13 people
killed by flooding from severe rains of the last two weeks.
With Republican
and Democratic officials at his side, he dismissed criticism that he ignored
the unfolding disaster while he was on vacation and instead urged Americans to
help.
"Nobody on this block, none of those first responders - nobody gives a hoot
whether you're a Democrat or a Republican," Obama said during his tour.
"What they care about is making sure they're getting the drywall out, the
carpet out, there's not any mold building, they get some contractors in here
and they start rebuilding as quick as possible."
Obama bragged about the speed with which his Federal Emergency Management
Agency is dispatching aid to the region, and White House aides noted that more
than $127 million for rental assistance and flood insurance payments has
already been disbursed. More than 100,000 people have applied for federal
assistance.
Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, did caution that it was too early to judge the
FEMA response.
But the bipartisan array of officials touring with Obama made for an image that
stood out for its contrast from the partisan accusations lobbed in recent days.
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump visited the area last week and
complained that Democratic rival Hillary Clinton had not done likewise.
Clinton countered that she would travel to Louisiana "at a time when the
presence of a political campaign will not disrupt the response."
Trump charged Tuesday that the president should have gone to Louisiana instead
of golfing on vacation. "Too little, too late!" he tweeted as Obama was en
route to Baton Rouge.
On 8/23/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Posted on Aug 22, 2016
Jill Stein, left, with resident Le'Kedra Robertson. (Jill 2016)
Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was in Denham Springs,
La., on Monday to speak with
people(https://www.facebook.com/drjillstein/) forced from their homes
by historic flooding-and to the volunteers trying to help them.
Some of the groups working on the scene were the Louisiana
Environmental Action Network(https://leanweb.org) , Together Baton
Rouge(http://www.togetherbr.org) , North Baton Rouge Disaster
Relief(https://www.gofundme.com/northbatonrouge) and Mutual Aid
Disaster
Relief(https://www.facebook.com/MutualAidDisasterRelief/) .
In one clip (viewed 42,000 times within three hours of appearing on
Facebook), Stein spoke with some of the displaced residents and
volunteer relief workers from Louisiana's Green Party.
Anika Ofori, a representative of the black caucus of the Louisiana
Greens, pointed out the racialized neglect of residents in the form of
slow-arriving support from the federal government. "We know from
Hurricane Katrina that when the resources come, they don't always, and
most often, do not get to the poorest or the blackest communities,"
she said. "So I am part of the Green Party because the Green Party
platform encompasses issues that affect me, that affect the black
community, that affect the poor community, that affect other minority
communities. And so I thank Jill for getting in contact with us."
Another woman expressed gratitude for her experience at the shelter,
saying that despite flood victims' losses, "we're still gaining
because we have each other to lean on."
Stein added that "it's a crisis like this that really brings out the
strength of a community. And we're here to help enlarge that community."
In another clip, Stein described what she saw while walking around a
formerly submerged neighborhood. "We basically saw drenched floors
where the floors were buckling. We saw walls that were beginning to be
covered with mold. ... We saw basically muck on the floor, on the
furniture, on the cabinets; the doors being taken down.
"All these emotional mementos and trophies," she continued. "The
sports trophies that were earned by the parents and also by the kids
who are now adults. . Grown children, their life's treasures, their
childhood treasures were basically all out on the front lawn.
"And we saw a crew of wonderful people, neighbors and many people who
came from New Orleans, who had been victimized by the floods."
In a concluding clip, Stein thanked everyone who had shown up to help
the people of Denham Springs recover. Local activist Le'Kedra
Robertson said local children won't be able to return to school until
December and invited viewers to come to Denham Springs and contribute
physical labor to help residents get back on their feet.
"If you walk through these streets of Denham Springs, where I grew up,
there aren't any FEMA or other resources that are coming except for
people who have compassionate hearts who are fixing lunches and
putting boots on the ground."
Anyone interested in financially contributing to the community's
recovery can do so via a GoFundMe
campaign(https://www.gofundme.com/510DenhamSprings)
.
-Posted by Alexander Reed
Kelly(http://www.truthdig.com/alexander_kelly)