I don't have enough medical knowledge to know the answer to that question.
But I think that whether or not a late term abortion should take place is a
complicated medical decision made by a woman and her doctor. It would
involve many variables which include the condition of the fetus, the
probable condition of the baby if it were born, the medical condition of the
mother, and other psychological, social, and economic factors. My basic
philosophy is that decisions about life and death in these situations, are
personal matters, not to be regulated by government or other external
authorities. I also feel this way about euthanasia, physician assisted
suicide, and the right of an individual to take his or her life. I'm aware
that many disabled people are highly uneasy with this stance because they
feel that as disabled people, they would have been vulnerable to elimination
by third parties if our laws were different. But I'm not suggesting a
eugenics death panel . I'm suggesting individual freedom to make decisions
about one's own life.
Miriam
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Marion, Ok. Pick the number of weeks you feel the fetus is viable. Do you
then believe there should be no abortions after that time?
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Mary,
I don't think that is a relevant question. The question is, "At what point
does the fetus become viable?".
Then we could consider some other questions like, What makes human life more
valuable than the lives of other primates or than the lives of intelligent
animals who are capable of feeling emotion, Which lives are disposable and
how do we decide?
Miriam
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Miriam, At what point do you believe the fetus becomes a human being?
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Bob,
I'd like to point out that when a woman uses birth control pills for a
prolonged period of time, there can be negative health effects for her. When
a man gets a vasectomy, his health isn't negatively affected. I'm not saying
that women shouldn't take responsibility for birth control, but I am saying
that it's more complicated for them. Regarding your belief that life begins
in the womb, one needs to ask about the nature of that life. Life is all
around us: insects that we kill for convenience, safety, or health, bacteria
that are harmful to us, animals of various kinds that we kill for a variety
of reasons, (and the animal rights activists and vegans have some strong
feelings about whether such killings are justified), and the millions we
kill in the service of our geopolitical goals, as well as those whom we kill
in revenge for the crimes they may or may not have committed. So it is
reasonable to question the assertion that the life of a developing fetus
should take precedence over the right of the woman in whose body that fetus
is developing, to determine whether or not she wishes to carry the fetus.
Miriam
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Hi Mary,
OK, yes it is life when in the womb in the latter stages of pregnancy imho,
, particularly if that life could survive outside the womb. . I believe in a
woman's right to choose in the first six months of pregnancy. This is not an
easy choice to make and I make it as a result of what some women go through
in the face of limited options like having to drive six hours to get an
abortion or being forced to undergo transvaginal ultrasound before an
abortion. I also recognize the psychological trauma associated with
abortion. . Like Obama, I believe that abortions should be legal, safe and
rare. No birth control other than vasectomy and tubal ligation are 100
percent effective and I don't believe that a woman should be forced to
endure an unwanted pregnancy. When we were younger, my wife and I decided
that we didn't want to have children. I got a vasectomy. I will admit that I
have less sympathy for women who refuse to use birth control, (by either
partner) and then have multiple abortions. Ideally, abortion should be a
last resort after other methods of preventing pregnancy have failed, but we
sure don't live in an ideal world.
Now for the Catholic church. I was raised Catholic and believe that I
benefitted from that experience though I am no-longer a practicing Catholic.
The church I was raised in emphasized programs designed to fight poverty and
injustice. I believe that the church took a very wrong direction under Pope
Benedict wherein anti-poverty programs took a back seat to abortion and
birth control issues. I am happy to see that Pope Francis is moving back
toward the anti-poverty direction.
AT this point in my journey through life, I am an agnostic considering
atheism. IF I ever do go back to organized religion I would likely choose
the Unitarian universalists.
Bob Hachey
