[blind-democracy] Re: Jesus, Christmas and Donald Trump for evangelists
- From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:51:21 -0400
Ethical Culture or, as it is called here on Long Island, Ethical Humanism,
is very similar to the Unitarian Universalists. However, it is not Christian
and when I was a member of the Ethical Humanist Society, it defined itself
as a non theistic religion which took no position on the existence of God,
but emphasized Judeo/Christian values.
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jesus, Christmas and Donald Trump for
evangelists
Bob, What a coincidence. I too have considered the Unitarian
universalists.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Jesus, Christmas and Donald Trump for
evangelists
Hi Mary,
OK, yes it is life when in the womb in the latter stages of pregnancy imho,
, particularly if that life could survive outside the womb. . I believe in a
woman's right to choose in the first six months of pregnancy. This is not an
easy choice to make and I make it as a result of what some women go through
in the face of limited options like having to drive six hours to get an
abortion or being forced to undergo transvaginal ultrasound before an
abortion. I also recognize the psychological trauma associated with
abortion. . Like Obama, I believe that abortions should be legal, safe and
rare. No birth control other than vasectomy and tubal ligation are 100
percent effective and I don't believe that a woman should be forced to
endure an unwanted pregnancy. When we were younger, my wife and I decided
that we didn't want to have children. I got a vasectomy. I will admit that I
have less sympathy for women who refuse to use birth control, (by either
partner) and then have multiple abortions. Ideally, abortion should be a
last resort after other methods of preventing pregnancy have failed, but we
sure don't live in an ideal world.
Now for the Catholic church. I was raised Catholic and believe that I
benefitted from that experience though I am no-longer a practicing Catholic.
The church I was raised in emphasized programs designed to fight poverty and
injustice. I believe that the church took a very wrong direction under Pope
Benedict wherein anti-poverty programs took a back seat to abortion and
birth control issues. I am happy to see that Pope Francis is moving back
toward the anti-poverty direction.
AT this point in my journey through life, I am an agnostic considering
atheism. IF I ever do go back to organized religion I would likely choose
the Unitarian universalists.
Bob Hachey
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