I don't know about average Long Islander, but I notice that your
conversation partner was self identified as middle class. That is
exactly the attitude that I have noticed from people who consider
themselves so-called middle class. Like I have pointed out, it is mainly
a way to regard oneself as superior when it is not credible to claim to
be rich. I bet she would also not want to even contaminate herself by
contact with poor people.
On 10/10/2015 11:54 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Last night I read an article about who rules the world financially. It
described all these complicated interlocking organizations, the G 7, the G
10, the G20, the IMF, the World Bank, the World trade Organization, the
International Monetary Fund, etc. After reading all of this complex mumbo
jumbo for a while, I wondered if Bernie isn't just selling us a beautiful,
but impossible dream.
And if we want to know what the average American thinks? Well, here's a
short version of a real conversation between me and an average Nassau County
resident. We were talking about the costs of medical care and medical
insurance.
Average Long Islander: Yes, the system is bad. All the money goes to the
rich. The rich are taken care of and the poor are cared for by medicaid.
It's us, the middle class, who get the short end.
Me: Well, not all the poor people are cared for by Medicaide. Perhaps half
are. Many aren't covered.
Average Long Islander: Well, the poor! They don't take their medication half
the time anyway.
Me: What do you think happens to them if they don't take their medication?
Average Long Islander: Oh, they die.
I am not making this up. And her tone of voice indicated that "the poor" are
really not of any real concern.
Miriam
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To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Go Ahead, Back Hillary Clinton and Forget All
About Her Record
I'm already bending way over backward in supporting Bernie Sanders as the
Democratic Candidate. At least with Bernie there are cracks in the Empire's
protective walls. Sanders could be pushed by popular pressure, into
becoming a People' President. No other candidate with even a remote chance
of winning, can disentangle from their puppet strings.
But we must not go into this campaign with Rose Colored Glasses.
Bernie Sanders will only be as good as the pressure brought to bear.
If the Establishment puts the greatest pressure on him, he will most surely
bend their way, despite his personal progressive leanings.
After all, Sanders is a politician. As such, he will work for consensus
over personal ideals.
But at least we have a glimpse into Sanders basic philosophy. We have no
such glimpse into that of any other candidate. Unless being a mindless
parrot is a personal philosophy. If Sanders has enough support to be
successful, we need to remember that he is only a step in the right
direction. He can never be the solution. He has been swimming in the
political Corporate Pool too long to be clean. But if he can point us in
the right direction, and if we can spread some understanding among the
Working Class, we might see the beginning of the collapse of the
Corporate.Military Establishment.
Along with pressuring Sanders to stand with the American People, will be the
need to begin conversation about what form of government we want to replace
the corrupt corporate capitalism now in control. If we could all spend just
as much time each week in serious discussions as we do in cheering our
favorite football team, we would find that we can move mountains.
Which reminds me, what time do the Sea Hawks play on Sunday?
Carl Jarvis
On 10/10/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Go Ahead, Back Hillary Clinton and Forget All About Her Recordbe damned.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/go_ahead_back_hillary_clinton_and_
forget
_all_about_her_record_20151009/
Posted on Oct 9, 2015
By Robert Scheer
Hillary Clinton speaks during a Step It Up for Gender Equality event
in New York City in March. (JStone / Shutterstock) Go ahead and
support Hillary Clinton, those of you for whom having the first female
president is the top priority. She is by far preferable to Carly
Fiorina, though of course no match for likely Green Party candidate
Jill Stein (I know: You want to win). Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a
principled and electable person, is not available, and political integrity
Just admit that you will be voting for someone to be president of theSyria.
world's most powerful nation who has not only been profoundly wrong on
the two most pressing issues of our time-economic injustice and the
ravages of unbridled militarism-but, what is more significant, seems
hopelessly incapable of learning from her dangerous errors in judgment.
Like her husband, she is certainly smart enough to avoid advocating
what President Obama has aptly termed "stupid stuff." However, the
good intentions of the Clintons are trumped by opportunism every time.
For confirmation of the Margaret Thatcher hawkish side of Clinton,
simply refer to her book "Hard Choices," which clearly is biased
against choosing the more peaceful course and instead betrays a
bellicose posturing that seems to harken back to the Goldwater Girl
days that reflected her earliest political instincts.
What one finds is a litany of macho bleating in defense of bombing
nations into freedom, leaving them fatally torn-Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
Honestly, wasn't Hillary Clinton's record as secretary of stateprimitive pro-Wall Street ideology.
horridly devoid of accomplishment compared with that of John Kerry,
who achieved long-overdue normalization of relations with Iran and
with Cuba, to name two stunning accomplishments?
But it is in matters of economic policy-driving this election-where
the failure of the Clintons is the most obvious, and where Hillary
Clinton seems to be even less conflicted than her husband in serving
the super rich at the expense of the middle class.
A continued deep deception in such matters was once again on full
display in her major policy statement printed Thursday on Bloomberg.
In an article headlined "My Plan to Prevent the Next Crash," Hillary
began by blaming it all on nefarious Republicans led by President
George W. Bush.
Of course, the Republicans have been terrible in their zeal to unleash
Wall Street greed ever since the moderate Republicanism of Dwight
Eisenhower came to be replaced by its opposite, the Reagan Revolution.
But the reality is that Ronald Reagan presided over the
savings-and-loan scandal and as a result was compelled to tighten
banking regulations rather than obliterate them. It remained for
President Clinton, in his patented zeal to obfuscate meaningful
political debate with triangulation, to enshrine into federal law that
One key piece of that betrayal was the reversal of the New Deal wallshe is elected.
between commercial and consumer banking, codified in the
Glass-Steagall Act, which Franklin Roosevelt had signed into law. When
Bill Clinton betrayed the legacy of FDR by signing the so-called
Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, he handed the pen used
in the signing to a beaming Sandy Weill, whose Citigroup had breached
that wall and commingled the savings of ordinary folks with the assets
of private hustlers-a swindle made legal by Clinton's approval of the
legislation.
Hillary Clinton, in her statement this week, made clear that in
opposition to positions taken by Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and
even John McCain she will not revive Roosevelt's sensible restriction if
Instead, Clinton blamed Republicans for the fact that "In the yearsof dollars.
before the crash, as financial firms piled risk upon risk, regulators
in Washington couldn't or wouldn't keep up." How convenient to ignore
that Citigroup, the result of a merger made legitimate by her husband,
was one of the prime offenders in piling up those risks before
taxpayers provided $300 million in relief.
Brooksley Born, a head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in
Clinton's second term, made a heroic effort to regulate the nefarious
marketing of dubious mortgage debt securities until Bill Clinton
betrayed her by signing off on legislation that explicitly banned any
regulation of those suspect mortgage derivatives, involving many trillions
It was that president's parting gift to the banks but also to hisbe damned.
wife, whose Senate career would come to be lavishly supported by Wall
Street's mega-rich leaders. They are now quite happy to back a woman
for president, as long as it's not someone like Brooksley Born or
Elizabeth Warren who is serious in her concern for the millions of
women whose lives were impoverished by Hillary Clinton's banking buddies.
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/go_ahead_back_hillary_clinton_and_
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Posted on Oct 9, 2015
By Robert Scheer
Hillary Clinton speaks during a Step It Up for Gender Equality event
in New York City in March. (JStone / Shutterstock) Go ahead and
support Hillary Clinton, those of you for whom having the first female
president is the top priority. She is by far preferable to Carly
Fiorina, though of course no match for likely Green Party candidate
Jill Stein (I know: You want to win). Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a
principled and electable person, is not available, and political integrity
Just admit that you will be voting for someone to be president of theSyria.
world's most powerful nation who has not only been profoundly wrong on
the two most pressing issues of our time-economic injustice and the
ravages of unbridled militarism-but, what is more significant, seems
hopelessly incapable of learning from her dangerous errors in judgment.
Like her husband, she is certainly smart enough to avoid advocating
what President Obama has aptly termed "stupid stuff." However, the
good intentions of the Clintons are trumped by opportunism every time.
For confirmation of the Margaret Thatcher hawkish side of Clinton,
simply refer to her book "Hard Choices," which clearly is biased
against choosing the more peaceful course and instead betrays a
bellicose posturing that seems to harken back to the Goldwater Girl
days that reflected her earliest political instincts.
What one finds is a litany of macho bleating in defense of bombing
nations into freedom, leaving them fatally torn-Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
Honestly, wasn't Hillary Clinton's record as secretary of stateprimitive pro-Wall Street ideology.
horridly devoid of accomplishment compared with that of John Kerry,
who achieved long-overdue normalization of relations with Iran and
with Cuba, to name two stunning accomplishments?
But it is in matters of economic policy-driving this election-where
the failure of the Clintons is the most obvious, and where Hillary
Clinton seems to be even less conflicted than her husband in serving
the super rich at the expense of the middle class.
A continued deep deception in such matters was once again on full
display in her major policy statement printed Thursday on Bloomberg.
In an article headlined "My Plan to Prevent the Next Crash," Hillary
began by blaming it all on nefarious Republicans led by President
George W. Bush.
Of course, the Republicans have been terrible in their zeal to unleash
Wall Street greed ever since the moderate Republicanism of Dwight
Eisenhower came to be replaced by its opposite, the Reagan Revolution.
But the reality is that Ronald Reagan presided over the
savings-and-loan scandal and as a result was compelled to tighten
banking regulations rather than obliterate them. It remained for
President Clinton, in his patented zeal to obfuscate meaningful
political debate with triangulation, to enshrine into federal law that
One key piece of that betrayal was the reversal of the New Deal wallshe is elected.
between commercial and consumer banking, codified in the
Glass-Steagall Act, which Franklin Roosevelt had signed into law. When
Bill Clinton betrayed the legacy of FDR by signing the so-called
Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, he handed the pen used
in the signing to a beaming Sandy Weill, whose Citigroup had breached
that wall and commingled the savings of ordinary folks with the assets
of private hustlers-a swindle made legal by Clinton's approval of the
legislation.
Hillary Clinton, in her statement this week, made clear that in
opposition to positions taken by Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and
even John McCain she will not revive Roosevelt's sensible restriction if
Instead, Clinton blamed Republicans for the fact that "In the yearsof dollars.
before the crash, as financial firms piled risk upon risk, regulators
in Washington couldn't or wouldn't keep up." How convenient to ignore
that Citigroup, the result of a merger made legitimate by her husband,
was one of the prime offenders in piling up those risks before
taxpayers provided $300 million in relief.
Brooksley Born, a head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in
Clinton's second term, made a heroic effort to regulate the nefarious
marketing of dubious mortgage debt securities until Bill Clinton
betrayed her by signing off on legislation that explicitly banned any
regulation of those suspect mortgage derivatives, involving many trillions
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Elizabeth Warren who is serious in her concern for the millions of
women whose lives were impoverished by Hillary Clinton's banking buddies.
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