Miriam, Yes, I too use 'we' when discussing actions of the federal government.
But it's funny. I am very involved in local politics and always use 'the
town' deliberately when describing their actions in order to separate me, and
voters in general, who I feel are not represented by the management of the
town.
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Roger,
You are correct, literally. Each time we use the term, "we", we are using the
term incorrectly. But it is a common useage, a short term way of saying "the US
government", used by very progressive people in writing articles and in
interviews. They are not, nor do Carl or I, take ownership of the policies.
It's just a way of talking that people use.
Miriam
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Judging from the URL, though, it appears to be an article about Nigeria, not
Niger. By the way, we are not there; we don't have troops there; we did not
send troops there. The imperialist U.S. government did that.
On 10/21/2017 11:57 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Mary,
I tried opening the link, but the closest I came was the following: •
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
I think I may have read it some time back, or at least a similar
article. But for my highly suspicious mind, anytime the Corporate
American Empire(ACE) reaches out to "help" another nation, I ask,
"What's in it for the War Mongers?"
Notice how more and more American Corporations are moving their
headquarters elsewhere. Like rats abandoning a sinking Ship of State,
they are hauling their ill gotten wealth to secure off-shore holdings.
They are stripping us of all our resources and we are in free fall
headed toward Third World Status.
We're in for a struggle, and my hope is that we do not resort to
violence when the uprising comes. I also hope that we rise up
peacefully from within, rather than being attacked from without. But
for sure, the Empire is stumbling and in big trouble. Just the fact
that they turned to Donald Trump should make a clear statement.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/21/17, MARY CONVY <CCRUSER@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
Well I certainly did my due diligence. Since I had just read a book,
and watched a documentary of Niger on all its humanitarian problems
including being the poorest and mot illiterate nation on earth, I was
certainly focused on those components and why we are there. However,
after two days of internet exploration I found the following article.
This is not a normal source for me and y'all could have found it quicker.
This article is from 2006 and explores why the US might in the future
send troops to the Niger Delta Valley. In 2013 Obama did. So thanks
to Mr Hope and Change ,yes, we are expending military into Africa for
corporate interests. He must have been pretty quiet about it when he
started us down another dangerous path. I do remember at the time
black activists were applauding Obama for sending humanitarian and
military aid (remember Boko
Harem) aid into Africa when in the past Africa was ignored. They
bought Obama's hype and so did I. So, Carl and Marion, you are
right. wait till I send this to Black Lives Matter. The article link
follows.
https://www.alternet.org/story/33282/nigeria%3A_the_next_quagmire
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Remember Armistice Day
Hi Mary,
I understand that it appears that the Corporate American Empire(ACE)
has troops and advisors in places where it seems they have no
investments. But if you do a search, taking any of the areas you are
questioning, and google the name of the country or area, with the
question, "Why is the USA involved in this nation/area"?
It could be that we are "protecting" some mineral deposits. We might
be staking our claim in order to prevent another world power, like
China, from getting in ahead of us. It could be a place we feel is
important to our control of an area, like our heavy support of Israel
in order to maintain our foot in the door of the Middle East. But I
am personally convinced that the Empire is not wasting resources in
areas that have no value...present or future.
Let me know what you think.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/21/17, MARY CONVY <CCRUSER@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl, We are in far too many places where we have no corporate
interests.
What the heck are we doing in Niger and when did anyone tell us we
were sending troops there? Get us out.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Remember Armistice Day
On 10/20/17, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mary,
Miriam summed it up perfectly. Those troops are in place to defend
our military industry and the corporations profiting from it.
These are the same corporations that have taken over our American
government, and turned our citizens into consumers. So every
holiday is another opportunity to force American Consumers to buy
buy buy. We have been under years of conditioning to become
enraged if any upstart nation dares to challenge our right(our
corporate right) to plunder when and where we wish.
And by the way, one reason I love this list so much is because we
can say whatever is on our mind, and those who read our words are
not forced in any way to accept a single word. No cash, no credit
cards, no coupons, no going into debt. It's all free!
Carl Jarvis
On 10/20/17, MARY CONVY <CCRUSER@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl, We have 1.3 million troops stationed around the world. They
are
trained to fight, not make peace. I worry much more about our
militarization than commercialism of holidays.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Remember Armistice Day
Maybe Veterans Day would be a good Holiday to take over and
promote World Peace and Brother/Sisterhood. But we'd probably
find a way to corrupt it, if we did. Look at what we've done to
Christmas, Easter, Labor Day, Thanksgiving(football day), The
Fourth of July, and even Mother's Day. All have become highly
commercialized. And we wonder if Capitalism has any impact in our
thinking?
My dad was born on November 11, 1912, just another regular day.
For his sixth birthday they declared it to be Armistice Day. But
it's hard to celebrate an armistice that went South, so they
changed the name to Veterans Day in honor of all the men...and
later, women, who went forward to defend the right of our
Capitalists to plunder wherever they chose. But anyway, since the
day is used to having its name changed, calling it World Peace Day
would be no big deal. And as long as Capitalism is our way of
life, the name would not interfere with the Capitalists from their
plundering and stealing our hard earned dollars.
Carl Jarvis
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