[blind-democracy] Re: FW: Justice Department Announces ADA Title II Consent Decree with Humboldt County, California

  • From: Richard Driscoll <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:26:42 -0600

Miriam:

You have just been exposed to the 'actual time zone' in which the bureaucracy you contacted is functioning, i.r., in your case about 25 years or so.

This is not a rare occurrence.

I wish you luck in your endeavors.

Richard


On 9/10/2016 9:31 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:

I live in New York. I have recently had dealings with the county department
of social services. All of their notices have a statement that one can
request material in accessible format, and they mention braille as an
alternative. Because my vision has decreased so much, I can't read very much
with my closed circuit TV system anymore. So I called the caseworker and
asked about getting notices in accessible format. He talked to one of his
coworkers about it while I was on the phone. He told me that there's a code
that they need to use, I suppose a computer code, to request the material in
braille. But no one knew what the code was. He'd try to find out and then
fulfill my request. I pointed out that the ADA has been around for more than
25 years and it is amazing that no one knew how to provide material in
accessible format by now.

The fact is that there are laws and regulations on the books which are
theoretically supposed to provide for adequate and fair provision of all
kinds of services. There's all kinds of paperwork which bureaucrats use to
show proof that they are complying with laws and regulations.  But in
reality, much of this is all a fantasy. To expect that things are as
described, is unrealistic.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:43 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Justice Department Announces ADA Title II
Consent Decree with Humboldt County, California

Hi Penny and All,

Another bite at the same apple here....

I have the transcripts somewhere where I put John Wodatch on the stand
so-to-speak, back in the day.

I noted that the ADA Coordinater for the City of Burton, Michigan, the city
next to me, was still listed as the ADA coordinator on the city web site 18
months after he pled guilty and was in jail for bribery by the U.S.
Attorney's ofoffice.

In fact I posted this stuff to the blind democracy list serve at the time.

You can't make this shit up.

Charles Abby was listed as the Burton ADA coordinator 18 months after he was
convicted aand after the DOJ was crowing about its project civic access
settlements with the likes of Burton.

Oh, my and the DOJ has only gotten worse since then which was about ten
years back.

In addition I've known Sally Conway, deputy director of the disabilities
rights section since the ADA was enacted in 1990.

She lived in New Hampshire and worked at the CIL before her move to DC in
1992. What happens to these bureaucrats when they hit DC?

Is there something in the water or what?

Do they get so distant from their roots and daily lives of PWD that they
forget? Or do they care more about their jobs than we the people?

I don't know the answers. But the "inside the beltway" crap is killing PWD.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny Reeder" <penny.reeder@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Justice Department Announces ADA Title II
Consent Decree with Humboldt County, California


Charlie and Joe and others, I wish Blind Democracy had a LIKE button!
Penny

On 9/9/16, joe harcz Comcast <joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All of these project civic access scofflaws get several bites at the
same apple in my experience.

They didn't even go this far with the next city from my township, the
City of Burton Michigan which still violates the very civic access
settlement in

2006. Ditto for Flint Michigan and dditto for Detroit Transit. In
fact the Richard Bernstein actual court ruling from 2006 is not
implemented in Detroit to this very day.

Doesn't anyone enforce the ADA and enforce even the court decrees?
Hasn't anyone in DOJ heard of contempt of court or a writ of mandemus?

Of course they haven't done a damn thing about my and others
complaints about being denied access to our very own, publicly funded
25th ADA Anniversary on the State lawn of the Capitol last year in
which I was arrested for protesting the fact the ADA is violated
daily here in Michigan

as it was that day.

Man, oh man I feel like I'm living in a Kafka novel.
Jesus H Christ the ADA is now 26 years old and Section 504 is now 43
years old and I'm still waiting ffor my and our civil rights!
And when I see DOJ drawing just another line in the sand with no
rreal penalties especially against the public sector it just makes me
so sick to my stomache I cannot stand the injustice. I want to puke.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny Reeder" <penny.reeder@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:56 AM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Justice Department Announces ADA
Title II

Consent Decree with Humboldt County, California


3 and a half years??? Hummm, I guess that's "reasonable" since, by
then, the ADA will be almost 30 years old! ...

On 9/8/16, Charles Crawford <ccrawford@xxxxxxx> wrote:



From: U.S. Department of Justice
[mailto:usdoj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 3:51 PM
To: ccrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Justice Department Announces ADA Title II Consent Decree
with Humboldt County, California



The Justice Department announced today that it filed a complaint
and consent decree resolving claims that the county violated Title
II of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) after failing to
comply with the ADA under a Project Civic Access (PCA) Settlement
Agreement. Under the consent decree, the county will, among other
things, bring all county facilities, programs, services and
activities into compliance with the ADA within three and a half
years; ensure that the county website conforms with the Website
Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0AA; provide curb ramps at all
county intersections; ensure that emergency management procedures,
policies and shelters are accessible to individuals with
disabilities; hire an ADA coordinator, independent licensed
architect, web accessibility coordinator and website accessibility
consultant; and pay $275,000 to compensate individuals with
disabilities who faced barriers to facilities, programs, services
or activities. The agreement has a term of three and a half years.


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