We are deceived many times in many ways. Much of the deception is
caused by our interpretation of what is occurring. We might be
aroused by some comely maiden, who turns out to have male plumbing,
and our desire turns to embarrassment and then to indignation and
outrage. But the same happens over and over again in our day to day
life. The "bait and switch", that offers us a deal too good to be
true. Then there is the politician who promises us the gravy train.
And how many young couples head off into wedded bliss, with an unreal
dream of what life will hold for them.
If you fall prey to some slinky fellow masquerading as a hot babe,
just suck it up and chalk it up to a miscalculation on your part.
Do you think I'll blame Hillary, if she becomes president, and sells
me out? Shame on me if I believed her come on. And when I slip my
hand down the jeans of that hot number and find that her plumbing is
all wrong, who really is the fool?
Carl Jarvis
On 3/8/16, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not too long ago a local television station was doing a series on
prostitution. They interviewed a male prostitute who always did the job
in drag. He openly said that he had straight customers who thought he
was female. He was also Black. For those of you who cannot know this
area there is a certain place that is known to be a white racist
homophobic bastion. He said that there were often men from that vicinity
who came to him wanting to try out a Black girl. I could not see the
television screen, but I could hear the expression in his voice. He was
proud of fooling them. Also, back in my seeing days, I was in a straight
bar once when I recognized one of the gay guys who frequented the porn
bookstore where I used to work. He was in drag at the time and made a
very convincing woman. If I had not recognized him I might have been
fooled myself. He was flitting around the bar flirting with various men
and having a very good time. Eventually he left with a man. I couldn't
help but think that if that guy found out he was going to be very mad.
On 3/7/2016 7:19 PM, Charles Krugman (Redacted sender ckrugman for
DMARC) wrote:
To start with I oppose limiting a question of a defense that should be
left up to a jury to decide when a crime occurs. Secondly I am aware
of instances where a gay person has instigated a crime by deceiving a
person as to their gender and/or sexual orientation making unwanted
sexual advances causing an overreaction to occur. I believe that
questions involving a criminal defense need to be left up to a jury to
decide if they are merited.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 6:42 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Gay panic
Chuck,
I'm not clear on what it was about the petition that you opposed.
Could you explain further?
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles
Krugman (Redacted sender "ckrugman" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 1:07 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Gay panic
actually there is another side to this. As a gay male I know that
there are men who actually will deceive other people in how they pose
or dress as a means of concealing their real sexual identity. There
are people who when confronted by this deception will react in such a
way that could result in violence toward the perpetrator of such a
ruse. I think that this type of deception is unconscionable and having
been a counselor for years and working in the legal defense field I
know people that would be shocked or insulted that they would lose
control and act accordingly. As a gay man I opposed the legislation in
California that was ultimately passed for this reason in addition that
people that deceive others give a bad name to the group that they are
trying to claim. Now I know that this opinion doesn’t fit in to the
idea that progressives need to tolerant any aberrant behavior engaged
in by a so-called minority class but the bottom line I am upset more
that a personally will hide their sexual identity to entrap a person
in order to engage in sex act rather than a defendant who reacts to
this can’t use any defense possible and let a jury decide so when I
got this petition in my in-box I hastily deleted it without signing.
From: Bob Hachey <mailto:bhachey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:59 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] FW: Gay panic
Hi all,
Here’s one that shocked me and that’s hard to do these days. Can you
believe that in 49 states, homophobes can use “gay panic” as
self-defense?
Now, That’s American injustice at its best!
Cynically Speaking
Bob Hachey
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When I first heard of the “panic defense,” I was shocked. A legal
defense that asserts that feeling panicked at an LGBT person’s
romantic advances justifies assault or murder? And it’s legal? It
turns out that it is a permissible defense in 49 out of 50 states, and
has been used to fight or reduce many people’s charges.
I heard about it in the 2008 murder case of 15-year-old Larry King in
California. He had asked Brandon McInerney to be his valentine.
McInerney came to school later that day and shot King two times in the
back of the head. When McInerney went to court for his crime, he used
the gay panic defense. Because of this, McInerney received only a
lesser second degree murder sentence.
The panic defense is anti-LGBT, anti-civil rights, and anti-American.
Please join me in calling on Utah state lawmakers to ban the panic
defense, in hopes that other states follow suit.
And young Larry King was just one of many victims whose murders didn’t
get the justice they deserved because of this grossly prejudicial
defense. We can’t let this go on in a free country. California
recently made good on a promise not to let such a miscarriage of
justice happen again. In 2014, it became the first (and only) state to
officially ban the “panic defense” in court. It’s time for the other
49 states to follow suit. Please call on Utah state officials to ban
the panic defense in Utah courts. We must not stop fighting this
travesty of justice until it is outlawed in all 50 states.
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