Roger, what you need to remember is that the nuns in charge had only an eight
grade education. The logic and reason that you employ here was not in their
knowledge base.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:58 PM
To: Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] Re: Easter Parade
Well, Easter is a corruption of the word Ishtar who was the Persian fertility
goddess. That is, it was originally the feast of Ishtar. That is where all that
bunny and egg stuff came from in the first place. So it is a question of just
whose high holy day are we talking about. It seems to be a mix, but if you were
prohibited from acknowledgement of the fertility symbols then that is a clear
rejection of another religion. Still, though, if they call it Easter they
haven't fully broken from the other religion.
___
Carl Sagan “It seems to me what is called for is an exquisite balance between
two conflicting needs: the most skeptical scrutiny of all hypotheses that are
served up to us and at the same time a great openness to new ideas. Obviously
those two modes of thought are in some tension. But if you are able to exercise
only one of these modes, whichever one it is, you’re in deep trouble. If you
are only skeptical, then no new ideas make it through to you. You never learn
anything new.
You become a crotchety old person convinced that nonsense is ruling the world.
(There is, of course, much data to support you.) But every now and then, maybe
once in a hundred cases, a new idea turns out to be on the mark, valid and
wonderful. If you are too much in the habit of being skeptical about
everything, you are going to miss or resent it, and either way you will be
standing in the way of understanding and progress. On the other hand, if you
are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical sense
in you, then you cannot distinguish the useful as from the worthless ones.” ―
Carl Sagan On 4/5/2021 5:57 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
Being from Catholic school we were forbidden from any of that Easter bunny,
colored eggs, and candy thing. We had to stick to religious aspect as a high
holly day.
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 8:23 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Easter Parade
My childhood Easter experiences are quite different from you guys. In my
family Easter was mostly ignored. Oh, there might have been mention of it
every year, but nothing special was ever done. There was one exception. I do
remember receiving an Easter basket one Easter in my childhood. It had a
decorated handle and there were candy chicks and candied eggs in it on a bed
of green tinsel that I think represented grass. Teachers wanted to
commemorate it though. I seem to remember coloring some boiled eggs as a
class assignment. I heard mention of some people who would dress up in new
clothes and go out to show off those clothes, but no one in my family ever
bothered with that kind of stuff.
And, as far as I know, there have never been any Easter parades anywhere
around here.
___
Carl Sagan “It seems to me what is called for is an exquisite balance between
two conflicting needs: the most skeptical scrutiny of all hypotheses that are
served up to us and at the same time a great openness to new ideas. Obviously
those two modes of thought are in some tension. But if you are able to
exercise only one of these modes, whichever one it is, you’re in deep
trouble. If you are only skeptical, then no new ideas make it through to you.
You never learn anything new.
You become a crotchety old person convinced that nonsense is ruling the
world. (There is, of course, much data to support you.) But every now and
then, maybe once in a hundred cases, a new idea turns out to be on the mark,
valid and wonderful. If you are too much in the habit of being skeptical
about everything, you are going to miss or resent it, and either way you will
be standing in the way of understanding and progress. On the other hand, if
you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical
sense in you, then you cannot distinguish the useful as from the worthless
ones.” ― Carl Sagan On 4/4/2021 6:56 PM, Penny Reeder wrote:
I remember too! My Mom always made my 2 sisters and me new outfits for
Easter. Yes, there were new white gloves and shiney patent leather shoes and
ruffley socks until we were teenagers, when Easter might become the
occasion for our first pair of nylon stockings. I remember mine when i also
wore a beautiful pale blue suit, every stitch sewed by our mother, and my
first pair of tiny heels. We probably came home from church to feast on the
very same Easter dinner we feasted on today — ham and deviled eggs, potato
salad and asparagus! It was our first holiday dinner with 3 of our 6
children and their spouces at the table — in more than a year, and the
newest member of our family, 6-week old baby Brooks, who is our sixth
grandchild. No church or Easter bonnets for any of us, but lots of
Springtime hope! Happy Easter!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 4, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
You and I are probably the only 2 people on this list who know those lyrics.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 3:25 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Easter Parade
When I was a boy, I longed for the day when I could do all the "fun stuff"
that wwent on in the big city. Along with dining in the fine restaurants
and attending live theater, I would imagine myself marching in the Easter
Parade in all my finery. And of course, on my arm would b Elizabeth Taylor.
And we'd be singing, "In your easter bonnet, with all the frills upon it,
You'll be the grandest lady in the easter parade.
I'll be all in clover and when they look you over, I'll be the proudest
fellow in the easter parade..."
Carl Jarvis
On 4/4/21, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I wonder if anyone remembers the song, Easter Parade by Irving Berlin?
The Easter Parade was a real event which took place on Fifth Avenue each
year.
Perhaps it still did, until Covid. People dressed up in their new
spring finery and traveled into Manhattan from whatever borough in
which they lived, and strolled along, looking at the other people
in their new spring clothes and at the windows of fancy department
stores. The important thing was people's hats. Celebrities and
wealthy people wore extravagantly fashioned hats with colorful feathers
and sometimes, unusual constructions.
My father worked in a millinery factory so my mother and I always
had new hats, but they were not extravagantly fashioned, just new
hats in good taste. You young people may not realize it, but well
dressed women always wore hats and gloves when they went out.
Because my aunt and uncle lived in Washington D.C. and my mother
and I often spent the Easter holidays there, we attended their
Easter Parade which took place on connecticut Avenue, which was
Washington's equivalent of New York's Fifth Avenue. As a child, I
was always given a chocolate Easter egg and sometimes a little toy
rabbit or fluffy baby chicken. I spent summers on my grandmother's
chicken farm. Baby chickens are kept in a very warm room when they first
hatch and they're adorable.
Miriam
