[blind-democracy] Re: Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

  • From: "abdulah aga" <abdulahhasic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 04:00:01 -0500


Hi list
Sorry I miks't all in one, but this is my coments on this ilektion and week ekonomy.
Every racism, nationalism stereotype, any kind of phobias come
After a weak economy.

When the economy is weak or weakening, that moment begin to come into play, these negative elements that can be put in one more word and this is fascism.

I ask myself and all of you together, why would United States were an exception to this already formula?

Any disorder that comes after the weakening of the economy first begins with the elections, demonstrations, various kinds of discontent,
formed various groups which again are seeking their place in this mess, and its share of the pie

while people find out where it goes and stands on the pier mess is already started, and then it is too late for anything,

only to save alive head when successful and it is the biggest happiness and the best wealth.

Now the Tromp was guilty of all these things that are being held this year

is guilty of all and pronounced words, words of hatred, for emigration policy and so on:

USA has a problem from the 2000 elections and the election campaign which is conducted every election, and US voters and alternative media what does in the United States or some kind of politicians who are considered the left block is completely unresponsive.

Israel and the destructive American with out any rezerv support for Israel will come to a large under social rebellion in the USA,

Maybe not right away but not far off when this will happen.

Why I say this?

Not because I hate Israel or the United States but only I can not hate anybody
I can only hate someone else's work.

I say this because people will not be able to withstand USA that stands out more for Izrails arrogance and bellicose policy that creates war policies

and whose politicians are maintained on the political scene only thanks to the bellicose politics and wars waged against up on neighbor,
and do not worry about it because of any how will bee result

types of sanctions from the UN or will have to answer before the court was to devote to this world.

For these procedures and insolence US gives Israel politic absolute and with rezerve support in everything:

Starting with arms military advisers, various military training of money not to speak of arriving in Israel without at least some restrictions:

If you think that the people of USA will be able to hold on to infinity, then I'm wrong.

The other side is even more devastating, not only for Israel but for every country that has a bad relationship with on neighbors:

United States Dollars encoder Israel as long as there is oil in the Arab countries and the Middle East,

the moment when the oil runs out US interest will decrease for that region and I do not know
what and how Israel then will surrounded by enemies that Izrail on sellf created for years.

Perhaps some of you know and, perhaps does not know that students who come from Israel have free schooling in the United States while students from the USA have to manage on their own and that it all paid from his own pocket.

A good part of the United States of Citizens receives minimal amounts of government assistance for food
SSI of which can't be inaf paid even for apartman one bedroom.

long Izrail's political establishment enjoys Dollars which daily and without any restrictions arriving in Israel.

I do not know just how many people will be able to withstand the USA but with this way of the fact that not long.


-----Original Message----- From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:56 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

The real danger, I think, is that as more and more people are having severe
financial problems, and as more and more people increasingly mistrust our
current government and political and economic system to properly care for
them, they may very well choose an alternative which is not socialism. In
Greece, Golden Dawn, a fascist party has a lot of power. We know that the
Nazis came to power in Germany when the country was in dire economic
condition. We know that in the US, racism, anti immigrant feeling, and
anti-semitism, are interwoven with our history and culture. We saw an
increase in overt racist acts after a Black President was elected. So to see
this response to Trump, is very scarey.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:28 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

Come on. Fair is fair. For long too long the small-minded, narrow focused,
pig headed red necks had to turn to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, or Mike
Savage for their quart of gasoline in order to spit fire. Now they have a
real leader. A man with an ego that is over 2,000 times heavier than his
brain.
So, if the Trump brain is an estimated 2 ounces, his ego weighs in at 250
pounds. Yup. Sounds right. So now the po white trash, the rusty
single-wide folks and the gang out at the target range preparing to save our
noble American way of life, now have their hero.

Now all they need are a few good slogans.
"A Trump in time saves nine..." Nine what? Ah, nine in German means
"No"...No what?
Maybe, You can't hump our Trump!
How about running a contest to find a positive word that rhymes with
"Trump".
Bump, Clump, dump, frump, grump, hump, jump, lump, mump, pump, rump, stump,
thump,

Carl Jarvis
On 8/22/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Taibbi writes: "So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston
severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While
being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that
'Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported.'"

Donald Trump. (photo: AP)


Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny
By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone
22 August 15

Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American
Stupid


So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a
Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of
the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all
of these illegals need to be deported."
When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the
incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he
went on:
"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate.
They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But
they are very passionate. I will say that."
This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.
The thing is, even as Donald Trump said and did horrible things during
this year's incredible run at the White House, most sane people took
solace in the fact that he could never win. (Although new polls are
showing that Hillary's recent spiral puts this reassuring thought into
jeopardy.) In fact, most veteran political observers figured that the
concrete impact of Trump's candidacy would be limited in the worst
case to destroying the Republican Party as a mainstream political force.
That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of
pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than
pissing on the presidency? It seemed even more like camp because the
whole shtick was fronted by a veteran reality TV star who might even
be in on the joke, although of course the concept was funnier if he
wasn't.
Trump had the whole country rubbernecking as this preposterous
Spaulding Smails caricature of a spoiled rich kid drove the family
Rolls (our illustrious electoral process in this metaphor) off the road
into a ditch.
It was brilliant theater for a while, but the ugliness factor has
gotten out of control.
Trump is probably too dumb to realize it, or maybe he isn't, but he
doesn't need to win anything to become the most dangerous person in
America. He can do plenty of damage just by encouraging people to be
as uninhibited in their stupidity as he is.
Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a
less secure world and want to blame someone - the government,
immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn
Kelly, whoever - for their problems.
Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get
Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's
political style encourages people to do more to express their anger
than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that
those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing"
are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be
who they are.
His signature moment in a campaign full of them was his exchange in
the first debate with Fox's Kelly. She asked him how anyone with a
history of calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting
animals" could win a general election against a female candidate like
Hillary Clinton.
"I've been challenged by so many people," Trump answered. "I frankly
don't have time for political correctness. And to be honest with you,
the country doesn't have time either..We don't win anymore. We lose to
China. We lose to Mexico..We lose to everybody."
On the surface, Kelly was just doing her job as a journalist, throwing
Trump's most outrageous comments back at him and demanding an explanation.
But on another level, she was trying to bring Trump to heel. The
extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media's
most powerful weapons. Someone becomes famous, we dig up dirt on the
person, we rub it in his or her nose, and then we demand that the
person get down on bended knee and beg forgiveness.
The Clintons' 1992 joint interview on 60 Minutes was a classic
example, as was Anthony Weiner's prostration before Andrew Breitbart
and Chris Christie's 107-minute marathon apologia after Bridgegate.
The subtext is always the same: If you want power in this country, you
must accept the primacy of the press. It's like paying the cover at
the door of the world's most exclusive club.
Trump wouldn't pay the tab. Not only was he not wrong for saying those
things, he explained, but holding in thoughts like that is bad for
America.
That's why we don't win anymore, why we lose to China and to Mexico
(how are we losing to Mexico again?). He was saying that hiding
forbidden thoughts about women or immigrants or whoever isn't just
annoying, but bad for America.
It's not exactly telling people to get out there and beat people with
metal rods. But when your response to news that a couple of jackasses
just invoked your name when they beat the crap out of a homeless guy
is to salute your "passionate" followers who "love this country,"
you've gone next-level.
The political right in America has been flirting with dangerous ideas
for a while now, particularly on issues involving immigrants and
minorities. But in the last few years the rhetoric has gotten particularly
crazy.
Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert proposed using troops and ships of war
to stop an invasion of immigrant children, whom he described as a 28
Days Later-style menace. "We don't even know all of the diseases, and
how extensive the diseases are," he said.
"A lot of head lice, a lot of scabies," concurred another Texas
congressman, Blake Farenthold.
"I'll do anything short of shooting them," promised Mo Brooks, a
congressman from the enlightened state of Alabama.
Then there's Iowa's Steve King, who is unusually stupid even for a
congressman. He not only believes a recent Supreme Court decision on
gay marriage allows people to marry inanimate objects, but also
believes the EPA may have intentionally spilled three million gallons
of toxic waste into Colorado's Animas river in order to get Superfund
money.
Late last year, King asked people to "surround the president's residence"
in
response to Barack Obama's immigration policies. He talked about
putting "boots on the ground" and said "everything is on the table" in
the fight against immigrants.
So all of this was in the ether even before Donald Trump exploded into
the headlines with his "They're rapists" line, and before his lunatic,
Game of Thrones idea to build a giant wall along the southern border.
But when Trump surged in the polls on the back of this stuff, it
caused virtually all of the candidates to escalate their
anti-immigrant rhetoric.
For example, we just had Ben Carson - who seems on TV like a gentle,
convivial doctor who's just woken up from a nice nap - come out and
suggest that he's open to using drone strikes on U.S. soil against
undocumented immigrants. Bobby Jindal recently came out and said
mayors in the so-called "sanctuary cities" should be arrested when
undocumented immigrants commit crimes. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio
have both had to change their positions favoring paths to citizenship
as a result of the new dynamic.
Meanwhile, Rick Santorum, polling at a brisk zero percent, joined
Jindal and Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan
to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of
birthright citizenship, thereby extending the war on immigrants not
just to children, but babies.
All of this bleeds out into the population. When a politician says
dumb thing X, it normally takes 'Murica about two days to start
flirting publicly with X + way worse.
We saw that earlier this week, when Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson blew
up Twitter by calling for undocumented immigrants to become "property
of the state" and put into "compelled labor." When a caller challenged
the idea, Mickelson answered, "What's wrong with slavery?"
Why there's suddenly this surge of hatred for immigrants is sort of a
mystery. Why Donald Trump, who's probably never even interacted with
an undocumented immigrant in a non-commercial capacity, in particular
should care so much about this issue is even more obscure. (Did he
trip over an immigrant on his way to the Cincinnati housing
development his father gave him as a young man?) Most likely,
immigrants are just collateral damage in Trump's performance art
routine, which is an absurd ritualistic celebration of the coiffed
hotshot endlessly triumphing over dirty losers and weaklings.
Trump isn't really a politician, of course. He's a strongman act, a
ridiculous parody of a Nietzschean superman. His followers get off on
watching this guy with (allegedly) $10 billion and a busty mute broad
on his arm defy every political and social convention and get away
with it.
People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to
decorum.
They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get
"crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.
Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's
hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing
person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. Fuck everything,
fuck everyone. Fuck immigrants and fuck their filthy lice-ridden kids.
And fuck you if you don't like me saying so.
Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match
for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long
time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on.
There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.
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Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny
By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone
22 August 15
Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American
Stupid

o two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a
Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of
the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all
of these illegals need to be deported."
When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the
incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he
went on:
"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate.
They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But
they are very passionate. I will say that."
This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.
The thing is, even as Donald Trump said and did horrible things during
this year's incredible run at the White House, most sane people took
solace in the fact that he could never win. (Although new polls are
showing that Hillary's recent spiral puts this reassuring thought into
jeopardy.) In fact, most veteran political observers figured that the
concrete impact of Trump's candidacy would be limited in the worst
case to destroying the Republican Party as a mainstream political force.
That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of
pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than
pissing on the presidency? It seemed even more like camp because the
whole shtick was fronted by a veteran reality TV star who might even
be in on the joke, although of course the concept was funnier if he
wasn't.
Trump had the whole country rubbernecking as this preposterous
Spaulding Smails caricature of a spoiled rich kid drove the family
Rolls (our illustrious electoral process in this metaphor) off the road
into a ditch.
It was brilliant theater for a while, but the ugliness factor has
gotten out of control.
Trump is probably too dumb to realize it, or maybe he isn't, but he
doesn't need to win anything to become the most dangerous person in
America. He can do plenty of damage just by encouraging people to be
as uninhibited in their stupidity as he is.
Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a
less secure world and want to blame someone - the government,
immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn
Kelly, whoever - for their problems.
Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get
Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's
political style encourages people to do more to express their anger
than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that
those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing"
are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be
who they are.
His signature moment in a campaign full of them was his exchange in
the first debate with Fox's Kelly. She asked him how anyone with a
history of calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting
animals" could win a general election against a female candidate like
Hillary Clinton.
"I've been challenged by so many people," Trump answered. "I frankly
don't have time for political correctness. And to be honest with you,
the country doesn't have time either..We don't win anymore. We lose to
China. We lose to Mexico..We lose to everybody."
On the surface, Kelly was just doing her job as a journalist, throwing
Trump's most outrageous comments back at him and demanding an explanation.
But on another level, she was trying to bring Trump to heel. The
extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media's
most powerful weapons. Someone becomes famous, we dig up dirt on the
person, we rub it in his or her nose, and then we demand that the
person get down on bended knee and beg forgiveness.
The Clintons' 1992 joint interview on 60 Minutes was a classic
example, as was Anthony Weiner's prostration before Andrew Breitbart
and Chris Christie's 107-minute marathon apologia after Bridgegate.
The subtext is always the same: If you want power in this country, you
must accept the primacy of the press. It's like paying the cover at
the door of the world's most exclusive club.
Trump wouldn't pay the tab. Not only was he not wrong for saying those
things, he explained, but holding in thoughts like that is bad for
America.
That's why we don't win anymore, why we lose to China and to Mexico
(how are we losing to Mexico again?). He was saying that hiding
forbidden thoughts about women or immigrants or whoever isn't just
annoying, but bad for America.
It's not exactly telling people to get out there and beat people with
metal rods. But when your response to news that a couple of jackasses
just invoked your name when they beat the crap out of a homeless guy
is to salute your "passionate" followers who "love this country,"
you've gone next-level.
The political right in America has been flirting with dangerous ideas
for a while now, particularly on issues involving immigrants and
minorities. But in the last few years the rhetoric has gotten particularly
crazy.
Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert proposed using troops and ships of war
to stop an invasion of immigrant children, whom he described as a 28
Days Later-style menace. "We don't even know all of the diseases, and
how extensive the diseases are," he said.
"A lot of head lice, a lot of scabies," concurred another Texas
congressman, Blake Farenthold.
"I'll do anything short of shooting them," promised Mo Brooks, a
congressman from the enlightened state of Alabama.
Then there's Iowa's Steve King, who is unusually stupid even for a
congressman. He not only believes a recent Supreme Court decision on
gay marriage allows people to marry inanimate objects, but also
believes the EPA may have intentionally spilled three million gallons
of toxic waste into Colorado's Animas river in order to get Superfund
money.
Late last year, King asked people to "surround the president's residence"
in
response to Barack Obama's immigration policies. He talked about
putting "boots on the ground" and said "everything is on the table" in
the fight against immigrants.
So all of this was in the ether even before Donald Trump exploded into
the headlines with his "They're rapists" line, and before his lunatic,
Game of Thrones idea to build a giant wall along the southern border.
But when Trump surged in the polls on the back of this stuff, it
caused virtually all of the candidates to escalate their
anti-immigrant rhetoric.
For example, we just had Ben Carson - who seems on TV like a gentle,
convivial doctor who's just woken up from a nice nap - come out and
suggest that he's open to using drone strikes on U.S. soil against
undocumented immigrants. Bobby Jindal recently came out and said
mayors in the so-called "sanctuary cities" should be arrested when
undocumented immigrants commit crimes. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio
have both had to change their positions favoring paths to citizenship
as a result of the new dynamic.
Meanwhile, Rick Santorum, polling at a brisk zero percent, joined
Jindal and Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan
to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of
birthright citizenship, thereby extending the war on immigrants not
just to children, but babies.
All of this bleeds out into the population. When a politician says
dumb thing X, it normally takes 'Murica about two days to start
flirting publicly with X + way worse.
We saw that earlier this week, when Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson blew
up Twitter by calling for undocumented immigrants to become "property
of the state" and put into "compelled labor." When a caller challenged
the idea, Mickelson answered, "What's wrong with slavery?"
Why there's suddenly this surge of hatred for immigrants is sort of a
mystery. Why Donald Trump, who's probably never even interacted with
an undocumented immigrant in a non-commercial capacity, in particular
should care so much about this issue is even more obscure. (Did he
trip over an immigrant on his way to the Cincinnati housing
development his father gave him as a young man?) Most likely,
immigrants are just collateral damage in Trump's performance art
routine, which is an absurd ritualistic celebration of the coiffed
hotshot endlessly triumphing over dirty losers and weaklings.
Trump isn't really a politician, of course. He's a strongman act, a
ridiculous parody of a Nietzschean superman. His followers get off on
watching this guy with (allegedly) $10 billion and a busty mute broad
on his arm defy every political and social convention and get away
with it.
People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to
decorum.
They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get
"crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.
Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's
hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing
person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. Fuck everything,
fuck everyone. Fuck immigrants and fuck their filthy lice-ridden kids.
And fuck you if you don't like me saying so.
Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match
for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long
time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on.
There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.
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