Hi Carl,
That was pretty cool how you gave that guy a hand up and allowed him to bring
the rest of his family here. To me, that's what it should mean to be an
American. If more folks would act as you did, then maybe America would really
be great.
Bob Hachey
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y first wife's mother, and many in her family, would see a Black man coming
down the sidewalk, and they would cross the street out of fear.
My neighbor had tried to sell his house for some months. Finally he listed
with a realtor who showed properties to Blacks as well as to the White folk.
My sweet neighbor on the other side of the house for sale, came knocking at my
door one early morning.
"Last night Dick and Jane(yup, that's their real names) showed their house to
some Colored folks. "Dick and Jane are asking far too much for any sensible
folks to buy it", I told her.
Sure enough, the house set empty for months, finally selling to a White single
mother with 3 young children. But my inlaws, who lived three blocks from our
house, got wind of this "invasion". "What would you do if some big Black man
jumped out in the alley and grabbed Judy?" my mother-in-law asked me.
"Well," I said after some consideration, "I'd do the same thing as if a Big
Green Man jumped out in the alley and grabbed Judy. I'd call for help!"
There was an unspoken fear in that neighborhood that we would be invaded by
Colored Folk. My father-in-law told me with a straight face, "If one moves in,
they come like a plague, and our property will devalue by half.
And yet, two blocks on the other side of me lived a young couple and their two
young daughters. These folks were both school teachers.
They dressed well and kept an immaculate home and yard. Shortly after they
moved in, their two daughters passed by our house on their way to our church,
for Sunday School. They went back the next week. They never went again. Our
church family did not want Blacks included.
A middle aged Mexican fellow came into church one day and sat in the pew at the
back. No one sat next to him. The next Sunday he was there again. Following
church service, I went to him and asked if he lived close by. He said he was
in a small apartment in the neighborhood, and was saving his money doing yard
work so he could bring his wife and two children here. I told him I could use
some yard work, and invited him to Thanksgiving dinner.
The next Sunday several concerned folks came up to me following church. "Did
you really invite that man to Thanksgiving Dinner?
Weren't you afraid he might rob you? Didn't you think about Judy and your
little daughter?" The next Spring I called on this man again, and for the next
two summers he did our lawn and flower beds. Then one day he came by with a
couple of children, and in his truck was his wife. "You helped me bring my
family together, and I just wanted you to meet them, and to thank you for your
kindness."
And all the while, my Holy neighbors tucked their Bibles under their arms and
walked piously to Church, to Praise the Lord!
How deeply ingrained is our prejudices? Just go out and walk around for a
while.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/14/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Deep seated prejudice and its identical to a conditioned response. The
training is centuries long education. Black man plus gun eequals criminal.
Miriam
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By the time this story is spun into the official police report, it
will never answer the question, Was the Officer so conditioned that he
shot the security guard while under the influence of deep seated
prejudices? So much of our behavior is controlled by conditioned
responses, of which we are totally unaware.
Carl Jarvis
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EMILY SULLIVAN
Jemel Roberson and his 9-month-old son.
Avontea Boose via AP
Updated at 4 a.m. ET on Wednesday
When police arrived after reports of a shooting over the weekend at a
bar outside Chicago, witnesses say Jemel Roberson, a 26-year-old
security guard who worked there, had already subdued the alleged
assailant in the parking lot, pinning him to the ground.
Adam Harris, who was at Manny's Blue Bar in Robbins at the time of the
incident on Sunday, told WGN-TV that Roberson was holding "somebody
on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back"
when officers from neighboring Midlothian got there early Sunday.
Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said that's when one of his
officers "encountered a subject with a gun" and shot him, according to
a statement given to the media.
But the "subject" was Roberson, not the suspect in the bar shooting.
On Tuesday, Illinois State Police issued a statement saying that "a
Midlothian Police Officer encountered a subject in plain black
clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard,
armed with a gun in the west parking lot."
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statements, the Midlothian Officer gave the armed subject multiple
verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before
ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject," the statement
said.
Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry. Other
witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said
he was wearing a hat emblazoned with the word "security."
"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they
still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed
him."
Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan
that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked "security."
She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard.
Woods said that the Midlothian officer came out of the club's back
door — weapon drawn — and ordered Roberson to "get on the ground."
"Before he says 'ground' he fires the first shot," she said, adding
that she has not been interviewed by investigators.
Roberson was declared dead shortly after arriving at a hospital. Four
others at the bar, including the shooting suspect, sustained
non-life-threatening injuries, police said.
Delaney said that the Cook County Sheriff's Office and the Robbins
Police Department were investigating the shooting.
