Carl:
I did not mean to say I was a biblical scholar. I found the
references by using my good friends Google and Bing. The answer
indicates to me that a great many persons have read some version of the
bible and then set about writing and printing their version!
Richard
On 8/18/2016 10:03 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Wow, Richard!
You must be sitting in a study filled with Bibles. I've only read the
King James and the New English Translation. That is, from cover to
cover. Of course the King James included the most interesting Old
Testament, while the New English Translation only covers the New
Testament. I understand it is also hard to find. But somewhere I
have a copy tucked away.
But anyway, I was taking great liberties when I suggested that, "By
their friends Ye shall know them".
I also have used the opposite, "By their enemies Ye shall know them".
A quick check with google will not bring up any real Biblical references.
Hope you're staying cool and dry.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/17/16, Richard Driscoll <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl:
I found the following references.
Matthew 7:16 ► <http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-17.htm>
Parallel Verses
New International Version <http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/7.htm>
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from
thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
New Living Translation <http://biblehub.com/nlt/matthew/7.htm>
You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can
you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
English Standard Version <http://biblehub.com/esv/matthew/7.htm>
You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from
thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Berean Study Bible <http://biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/7.htm>
By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from
thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Berean Literal Bible <http://biblehub.com/blb/matthew/7.htm>
By their fruits you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from
thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
New American Standard Bible <http://biblehub.com/nasb/matthew/7.htm>
"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn
bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
King James Bible <http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/7.htm>
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or
figs of thistles?
Holman Christian Standard Bible <http://biblehub.com/hcsb/matthew/7.htm>
You'll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from
thornbushes or figs from thistles?
International Standard Version <http://biblehub.com/isv/matthew/7.htm>
You will know them by their fruit. Grapes aren't gathered from thorns,
or figs from thistles, are they?
NET Bible <http://biblehub.com/net/matthew/7.htm>
You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from
thorns or figs from thistles, are they?
New Heart English Bible <http://biblehub.com/nheb/matthew/7.htm>
By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or
figs from thistles?
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
<http://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/matthew/7.htm>
But by their fruit you will know them. Do they gather grapes from thorns
or figs from thistles?
Richard
On 8/17/2016 8:36 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
By Their Friends Ye Shall Know Them.
I'm sure that's in the Bible somewhere.
It should come as no surprise that Hillary Clinton would turn to the
folks she knows best, to put together her various teams and to fill
key jobs. Isn't that how we all do it? We turn to those we know and
trust to help us work through difficult tasks. When our generator
acts up we call Russ. He knows that generator inside and out. I
wouldn't call some total unknown when Russ is around. When the truck
acts up we call Rudy. After over 300 thousand miles, Rudy knows how
to tickle a few more miles out of the tired old motor. When I worked
for the Washington State Department of Services for the Blind, and I
had positions to fill, I first looked among my closest associates, and
then broadened out to search among people recommended to me by trusted
associates. That's how it's done.
So of course Hillary Clinton is going to go to those folks she knows
and trusts. And next she will search among folks recommended to her
by these trusted associates. All normal behavior.
So when the word came out that Clinton had selected Ken Salazar to
head up her transition team, it should have been totally expected.
What troubles me most regarding this announcement is not who Clinton
named, but that it disturbed people who had actually bought into her,
"shift to the Left" propaganda. When do we wake up and understand
that the use of language is a central tool of any successful
politician. Speaking all things to all people is not an easy thing to
do.
And one other thought. Our brain needs exercise in order to grow.
What we put into it will determine how strong it becomes. My stomach
loves sugar and chocolate. It constantly grows large and flabby if I
don't take care to put decent food into it.
We have been "dumbed down" through our schools and our mass media,
until our brain can handle nothing more than snippets of information,
before being distracted. We have had our brain trained to accept
without much question, the rules and laws set down by our Ruling
Class.
Well, if your brain is still listening, and that is doubtful, I'll
tell it that Hillary Clinton will be our next president, and she will
"Walk Back" her Left leanings, telling us that the timing is not
right, or the progressive plans are not in the best interest of our
National Security. When this happens, and it's going to happen, just
remember to check out Clinton's friends. That will tell your brain
just which American's Security is at stake.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/16/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Clinton Transition Team Headed by Anti-Climate 'Powerbroker'
Published on
Tuesday, August 16, 2016
by
Common Dreams
Clinton Transition Team Headed by Anti-Climate 'Powerbroker'
Ken Salazar has previously claimed "there's not a single case where
hydraulic fracking has created an environmental problem for anyone"
by
Nadia Prupis, staff writer
Salazar has previously promoted the TPP, fracking, and the Keystone XL
pipeline. (Photo: Casa de América/flickr/cc)
Hillary Clinton has named her transition team should she be elected in
November, and the roster—as many feared—is a who's-who of establishment
figures, including former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who has a
maligned
track record on climate.
The team will also include former national security adviser Tom Donilon,
former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, president of the Center for
American
Progress (CAP) Neera Tanden, and director of Harvard University's
Institute
of Politics Maggie Williams. Two of the campaign's policy advisers, Ed
Meier
and Ann O'Leary, will also serve as co-executive directors.
Salazar, whose career includes positions both in government and
corporate
Washington, D.C. firms, has previously pushed for projects that are
reviled
among environmental activists, such as fracking, the Trans Pacific
Partnership (TPP), and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Just a year ago, Clinton and Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) penned an op-ed
for
the Huffington Post decrying the cyclical nature of Capitol Hill
institutions that enable lawmakers and lobbyists to jump in and out of
the
private and public sectors.
"[I]ncreasingly, Americans' trust in government is eroding. And a big
reason
for that is the so-called revolving door between government and the
private
sector," they wrote.
But as David Sirota noted Tuesday at International Business Times,
putting
Salazar in charge of Clinton's transition team only empowers more of the
same:
Salazar served as Colorado's Attorney General, U.S. Senator and Interior
Secretary before traveling through that revolving door and taking a job
in
2013 as a partner at WilmerHale—a law and lobbying colossus that has
been
called one of the most influential forces in Washington. Salazar's
biography
says that he "provides legal, strategic and policy advice to national
and
international clients, particularly on matters at the intersection of
law,
business and public policy." He is one of 39 former public officials now
working at WilmerHale, according to the nonpartisan Center for
Responsive
Politics. The firm has recently been the subject of a ProPublica
investigation that showed one of its partners gave a personal loan to
Gene
Sperling, then President Obama's economic adviser, as the firm
represented
major financial institutions.
Salazar is not a registered lobbyist but he appears to fit the
description
of the kind of powerbroker that Clinton has criticized.
The former interior secretary has also previously said, "The TPP is a
strong
trade deal that will level the playing field for workers to help
middle-class families get ahead. It is also the greenest trade deal
ever,"
and has claimed that "there's not a single case where hydraulic fracking
has
created an environmental problem for anyone."
According to Politico, Salazar is also opposing an anti-fracking ballot
measure in his home state of Colorado.
The team was announced just days after 15 progressive groups published
an
open letter calling on Clinton to appoint personnel that would prove her
commitment to issues such as ending economic inequality and stopping the
TPP.
"Historically, too many Wall Street executives and corporate insiders
have
traveled through the revolving door between private industry and
government," the letter stated. "The result of this practice is that the
interests of elites are over-represented in Washington."
The signatories included advocacy groups Public Citizen, RootsAction,
and
MoveOn.org. They urged Clinton to "publicly state that, should you win
the
presidency, you will appoint personnel from backgrounds in public
interest
advocacy, academia, and public service to influential positions within
your
administration, rather than merely drawing from the usual set of
corporate
insiders."
"Personnel is policy," they wrote.
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Clinton Transition Team Headed by Anti-Climate 'Powerbroker'
Published on
Tuesday, August 16, 2016
by
Common Dreams
Clinton Transition Team Headed by Anti-Climate 'Powerbroker'
Ken Salazar has previously claimed "there's not a single case where
hydraulic fracking has created an environmental problem for anyone"
by
Nadia Prupis, staff writer
• 64 Comments
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• Salazar has previously promoted the TPP, fracking, and the Keystone
XL pipeline. (Photo: Casa de América/flickr/cc)
• Hillary Clinton has named her transition team should she be elected
in November, and the roster—as many feared—is a who's-who of
establishment
figures, including former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who has a
maligned
track record on climate.
• The team will also include former national security adviser Tom
Donilon, former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, president of the Center
for
American Progress (CAP) Neera Tanden, and director of Harvard
University's
Institute of Politics Maggie Williams. Two of the campaign's policy
advisers, Ed Meier and Ann O'Leary, will also serve as co-executive
directors.
• Salazar, whose career includes positions both in government and
corporate Washington, D.C. firms, has previously pushed for projects
that
are reviled among environmental activists, such as fracking, the Trans
Pacific Partnership (TPP), and the Keystone XL pipeline.
• Just a year ago, Clinton and Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) penned an
op-ed for the Huffington Post decrying the cyclical nature of Capitol
Hill
institutions that enable lawmakers and lobbyists to jump in and out of
the
private and public sectors.
"[I]ncreasingly, Americans' trust in government is eroding. And a big
reason
for that is the so-called revolving door between government and the
private
sector," they wrote.
But as David Sirota noted Tuesday at International Business Times,
putting
Salazar in charge of Clinton's transition team only empowers more of the
same:
Salazar served as Colorado's Attorney General, U.S. Senator and Interior
Secretary before traveling through that revolving door and taking a job
in
2013 as a partner at WilmerHale—a law and lobbying colossus that has
been
called one of the most influential forces in Washington. Salazar's
biography
says that he "provides legal, strategic and policy advice to national
and
international clients, particularly on matters at the intersection of
law,
business and public policy." He is one of 39 former public officials now
working at WilmerHale, according to the nonpartisan Center for
Responsive
Politics. The firm has recently been the subject of a ProPublica
investigation that showed one of its partners gave a personal loan to
Gene
Sperling, then President Obama's economic adviser, as the firm
represented
major financial institutions.
Salazar is not a registered lobbyist but he appears to fit the
description
of the kind of powerbroker that Clinton has criticized.
http://commondreams.org/crossroadshttp://commondreams.org/crossroads
The former interior secretary has also previously said, "The TPP is a
strong
trade deal that will level the playing field for workers to help
middle-class families get ahead. It is also the greenest trade deal
ever,"
and has claimed that "there's not a single case where hydraulic fracking
has
created an environmental problem for anyone."
According to Politico, Salazar is also opposing an anti-fracking ballot
measure in his home state of Colorado.
The team was announced just days after 15 progressive groups published
an
open letter calling on Clinton to appoint personnel that would prove her
commitment to issues such as ending economic inequality and stopping the
TPP.
"Historically, too many Wall Street executives and corporate insiders
have
traveled through the revolving door between private industry and
government," the letter stated. "The result of this practice is that the
interests of elites are over-represented in Washington."
The signatories included advocacy groups Public Citizen, RootsAction,
and
MoveOn.org. They urged Clinton to "publicly state that, should you win
the
presidency, you will appoint personnel from backgrounds in public
interest
advocacy, academia, and public service to influential positions within
your
administration, rather than merely drawing from the usual set of
corporate
insiders."
"Personnel is policy," they wrote.
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