Miriam, well if you need to know I read industry publications for the aircraft
and automotive repair professions. I didn't base any of my post on any mass
media outlets. Obviously you listen only to your neo-liberal commercial mass
media and that is your prerogative but don't distort basic facts. I was
certified in avionics repair back in the '90s and understand the issues a
little deeper than just hearing someone say "there is a fault in the plane".
Honestly, I doubt you are qualified to make that call and neither is your
chosen media outlets.
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:27 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Christmas tradition: Pink slips from Boeing
Obviously, you've been listening to a different news source than I have. Most
likely, it's been the commercial mass media. True, the crews weren't trained,
but there is a fault in the plane. I think that more than 300 people were
killed in crashes. There have been articles that I haven't bothered posting.
But one of our problems in 2019, is that people are split on the basis of which
news source they trust. Example, Fox viewers support Trump and can't be
dissuaded.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 6:45 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Christmas tradition: Pink slips from Boeing
Miriam and Carl, actually that is a real distortion. There have been two
crashes of that aircraft. Both have been linked to the flight crew's lack of
knowledge of how the anti-stalling software works. Flight crews were never
adequately trained on how to use it. That got lost in the public's drive-by
media. It was just easier to put the blame on the aircraft design than handicap
an industry with adequate training. Like Carl said the blame is on rosie the
riveter and her family and not the profit takers in the airline industry that
saved a few bucks by making the training process nothing more than a 20 minute
video on an ipad; seriously that is what it was.
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 1:03 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Christmas tradition: Pink slips from Boeing
Absolutely production of the 737Max must be discontinued. And all who were
responsible in continuing to produce this flawed piece of flying death should
be fired from their jobs and charged with contributing to the deaths of those
murdered in the two crashes, and billed for the loss of income that will result
from their combined greed.
My point is that it is seldom the perpetrators of these high white collar
crimes who suffer. It's the Working Class who pays the bills.
And as payment? They are sneered at and called stupid...and perhaps in that
regard we are.
Carl Jarvis, what, me worry?
On 12/16/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But you are aware of the serious problems with the design of that
plane and that there have been crashes. Ralph Nader's great niece died
in one of those crashes. I've heard about that plane on Loud and Clear
and in several other places like Democracy Now, this morning. They need to
redo the design.
This should have already been done.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:52 AM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Christmas tradition: Pink slips from Boeing
Traditionally, Boeing passes out Pink Slips a week or two prior to
Christmas. But the rumored news that Boeing is planning to shut down
the production line for the 737 Max could be devastating news for
employees at the Renton, Washington plant.
Language such as, "temporary closure" and "possible layoffs", do very
little to ease the stress felt by the employees. In fact, it does
little to ease the concerns of all levels of business, public and private
alike.
The usual Boeing tradition of issuing Pink Slips just before the
year's end, is a special way of sharing "Glad Tidings and Good Will to
All", by the folks made wildly wealthy through the labor of the Working Class.
Carl Jarvis
