Right on, Roger. It does make me raise and eyebrow when a bright
fellow like Bob Evans displays such naivete. At least Bob has shown
some ability to modify his remarks. He began some many months back in
a very aggressive, angry and intensely defensive frame of mind.
I recall some very outrageous emails from Joe, responding to Bob
Evans's(Mostafa) outrageous posts.
In the cool shade of reason, I believe most of us agree that debate,
discussion and the exchange of ideas gains us far greater rewards than
curses, insults and put downs.
I doubt that Bob Evans could ever present me with a level of
discussion that would bring me into his beliefs. Nor do I expect
anything I say will move him to turn away from something that is such
a part of his very being. But we can come to understand one another
better. We can come to respect the beliefs of one another. We can,
through never ending discussions come to live together in peace, and
without fear of one another. That could become our Real World, if we
want it to be. Today we are living in the world created by our
Masters...for their benefit. But if we declare Peace upon all Earth,
then that would become the Reality. And Greed with all its misery
would become nothing more than a bad dream.
Carl Jarvis
On 1/2/18, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
And you might ask this. Does he really think that if he had been born in
Salt Lake City, Utah that it would have ever entered his mind to study
Islamic theology?
On 1/2/2018 10:43 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Greetings and Hope for a Positive New Year for all working class
brothers and sisters the World Around.
Bob Evans wrote, in part: "...I have strong
ties to my faith and heritage. It is not because I was born Muslim. I
studied at deep length and concentration Islamic theology. I took
various curricula on Koran commentary, Hadith discipline, Shariah
jural, classical Arabic, Islamic history, philosophy and eminently
prestigious English class at the British Council. I wholeheartedly
maintain this foreign language to fend for my heritage and identity."
Like Bob Evans, many of us believe ourselves to be reasonable people,
and arrive at our present beliefs by processing the information
available to us. In Rehab we called it, "Informed Choice". But in
the real world it is no choice at all. It is a conclusion brought
about by our social norms and the teachings allowed by our particular
Ruling Class.
We do not want to believe that our minds have been so controlled as to
make Free Choice impossible.
All of us have been conditioned by our culture, our parents and close
family, our Faith, our Peers, and how we process all of this
"information". To believe that we were not affected by the World we
live in is to suggest that we are "God-like". Donald Trump is such a
person. If he tells us that the Media gives us False News, then that
is what it is, because Donald Trump has stepped away from the
influences that shape most of us. Donald Trump has placed himself in
a very small group of individuals. They include the likes of Joseph
Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Smith,Jr., Charles Manson, and the
countless Royalty that has oppressed Mankind down through the
centuries. All are products of their culture. And all believe
themselves to have either risen above the Masses, or been anointed
. There is probably no "happy ending" to this story of Mankind, but
still we must try to bring about a peaceful conclusion. To do nothing
will seal our doom. Until we can live as One People, agreeing to
accept each others differences while not attempting to force our
beliefs onto others, and tackling together the most pressing threat to
our existence, the destruction of Life on Planet Earth, we stand face
to face with our own self inflicted extinction.
Carl Jarvis
On 1/1/18, Bob Evans <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At least 1 in 4 American Christians surveyed recently by Christianity
Today magazine said, they believe it is their biblical accountability
to relentlessly plump for the nation of Israel. This view is commonly
known as Christian Zionism. The Pew Research Center put the figure at
approximately 63% among white evangelicals. Christian Zionism is
pervasive within mainline American evangelism. It is broadly endorsed
among charismatic and independent congregations. This includes the
Assemblies of God, Pentecostals and Southern Baptists, as well as many
of the independent mega churches. It is less prevalent within the
historic denominations, which show significant repute for the work of
the United Nations, support for human rights, the rule of
international law and empathy with the Palestinians. Despite the
explicit abnegation of Christian Zionism by mainstream Christian
bodies, many registered and nondenominational Churches across the
States emphasise the alleged religious obligation to incalculably
stand by Israel, politically and with full financial backing. They
claim their perspective is theologically justified. Thus, the
foundation of Israel in 1948 fulfills a biblical prophecy for them.
So, who is to be considered a Christian Zionist? To answer this
thoroughly, there are major factors to measure someone’s stance and
ideology. First, political orientation. In the United States, if
someone happened to be Republican or he strongly boosts for that
particular party, he is most likely to be listed as a Christian
Zionist. Second, regional base. By good chance, many of those who
reside in southern States are in favour of Christian Zionism. Note, I
haven’t extrapolated. I used a lucid quantifier to purposely
indicate a considerable amount. Third, Xenophobia. Christian Zionists
are constantly assaulting foreign visitors and licit residents. They
unrelentingly call for unconscionable expatriation. Fourth, racism.
They act superiorly and they disgrace ethnic minorities. They diss and
assault them in a staidly despicable manner. Fifth, Islamophobia. They
methodologically demonise Islam. They viciously misportray its
essence. They misquote its text, they shamelessly lie about its
tenets. Sixth, warmongering. Despite their counterfeit sentiments of
promoting peace, they incessantly advocate for warfare. In one of his
damnable rallies on last Fourth of July, hellion Donald Trump spoke
simultaneously to veterans and faith leaders. They both spatted to his
intolerably belligerent remarks. Seventh, Americanism. Unlike
respectable nations, they coerce whoever wishes to interculturally
communicate with them to become wholly Americanised in character. They
basically manipulate them. Eighth, hate speech. Instead of attempting
to coexist with various ethnic descents, they unstoppably exercise
disparagement. They are at the slightest, bigoted, fanatic,
irresponsible, detestable, repellent and intimidating. Ninth,
Buttonholing for Israel’s aggression and invasion. Christian Zionists
are infinitely colluded and possessed by Israeli military aspirations.
They tolerate enormous atrocities committed by insensate Israeli
soldiers. They hardheartedly watch on television, Palestinian children
throwing Israeli tanks with stones. Tenth, Dissimulation. Christian
Zionists are conspicuously notorious of deceiving lay citizens. They
always terrify them from foreign visitors. They are excessively
xenophobic. Ultimately, who is this message for? In plainly parlance
terms, it is for Zionist pastors and preachers. I am here to deliver
them fear. Donald Trump era has brought you turbulent development. It
exposed your genuine figure. There are high mountains to climb. As you
are boosting for warfare, we are advocating for Jihad in return.
Numerous evangelical Christians came out to be what they truly are.
They aren’t able to hide their actual intent of intemperately
disseminating evil. At the same time, as always, I ought to hold the
cane from the middle. This is not a rant against all Americans,
Christians or even Jews. Despite your faith or the lack of,
philosophical or political orientation, people who are willing to
refrain from imposing aggression or foreign intervension in our own
affairs are warmly welcome. I proudly collaborated with cecity
associations across the States. We prosperously held projects for
implementing accessibility and advocated for perfect independence to
those who live with sight loss. I have a brilliant Mormon friend
called Alison. She is a loving person. She is truly loyal and
respectful. She lives in Utah. We mutually have incredible deference
for each other’s faith and cultural origin. I truly admire her
unfeigned commitment to family and kinship ties. I am only strident
with those who insist to adhere uncongenial temperament. I have strong
ties to my faith and heritage. It is not because I was born Muslim. I
studied at deep length and concentration Islamic theology. I took
various curricula on Koran commentary, Hadith discipline, Shariah
jural, classical Arabic, Islamic history, philosophy and eminently
prestigious English class at the British Council. I wholeheartedly
maintain this foreign language to fend for my heritage and identity.
Unlike secularised and civilly defeated Muslims, I am inconvenient to
unethically indoctrinate. Fortuitously, I am sufficiently conscious of
what is occurring. Thence, I competently recognise what to apprise and
what to despise. I demonstrate in this post the crucial necessity to
persistently repudiate antagonisation acts while at the same time,
sustaining respectful friendship and positive inclusion. This is what
Islam prescribes. We are religiously enjoined to be pious of the
divine while being just and dutiful. Islam has decisive precepts for
states of peace and war. Shariah jural has been filled with
detailed and accurate maxims. It ranges from territorial jurisdiction
to how to go to the toilet. Allah hasn’t left us clueless of even the
littlest matters as for the latter. This is our identity and we are
quite proud of it. Anyone attempts to plague us to provoke our
offence, he’ll instantly be countered with what he may not like. So,
watch out. It wholly depends on your initial disposal. The way you’ll
act, you’ll be rewarded. If you aim to instigate hostility,
retaliation is to be radically anticipated. If you intend to be
peaceful, your proposal will appreciatively be rivaled. Hate is not
our fete. Our purpose is to integrate. Cordially, Bob Evans
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