Hi
Usa supposed, but is not,
I greed with you Miriam,
this is what I Thoth like that:
Now when we know that USA is not secular government, then I don't know why
many American hate Muslim? so any country should do in on country what
people desite
Like Iran Afghanistan so on so on.
So when we know that USA isn't secular government and that USA is Christian
country,
if Trump win lection,
and we know his idea about Muslim,
so we Muslim should thinks about heavy day's or Move some where als.
I don't want to happened 1941 to 1945 for Jewish or 1991 to 1995 for Muslim
in form Yugoslavia.
But looks like that in USA Muslim people will have sem destiny like Jewish
in Germany from 1941 1945.
Trump have Hitler's adia and what expect from him? but looks like many
American follow him and mostly he liding.
-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:55 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: CNN Punished Its Own Journalist for
Fulfilling a Core Duty of Journalism
Abdulah,
The US is supposed to be a secular government. We are supposed to have a
separation between church and state. But, in reality, it is a Christian
country. That's why Christmas is a national holiday. That's why the
President lights a Christmas tree each year. That's why President Obama ends
each speech with, "God bless America". That's why there is a congressional
Christian prayer breakfast.
Miriam
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Hi
this is normal,
like I sad for Muslim coming very heavy days,
same way maybe more wars then,
when was for Juis during second world warld.
This is nothing and USA didn't punish him for this statement
dangerous anti-Muslim climate has exploded. The leading GOP presidential
candidate is speaking openly of forcing Muslims to register in databases,
closing mosques, and requiring Muslims to carry special ID cards.
Looks like this is normal,
use this language is normal in Democratic country:
so last question what I want know if some could give to me answer?
is USA secular country, I mean government it is secular or religion
government of USA?
if is secular government, then why I listen auld time we are krischen and
why I listen of president candidate
often time use word I am religion person?
is it contra victory secular government?.
-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 2:20 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] CNN Punished Its Own Journalist for Fulfilling a
Core Duty of Journalism
Greenwald writes: "CNN yesterday suspended its global affairs correspondent,
Elise Labott, for two weeks for the crime of posting a tweet critical of the
House vote to ban Syrian refugees. Whether by compulsion or choice, she then
groveled in apology."
Glenn Greenwald. (photo: Occupy.com)
CNN Punished Its Own Journalist for Fulfilling a Core Duty of Journalism By
Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept
22 November 15
CNN yesterday suspended its global affairs correspondent, Elise Labott, for
two weeks for the crime of posting a tweet critical of the House vote to ban
Syrian refugees. Whether by compulsion or choice, she then groveled in
apology. This is the original tweet along with her subsequent expression of
repentance:
This all happened after The Washington Post's Erik Wemple complained that
her original tweet showed "bias." The claim that CNN journalists must be
"objective" and are not permitted to express opinions is an absolute joke.
CNN journalists constantly express opinions without being sanctioned.
Labott's crime wasn't that she expressed an opinion. It's that she expressed
the wrong opinion: after Paris, defending Muslims, even refugees, is
strictly forbidden. I've spoken with friends who work at every cable network
and they say the post-Paris climate is indescribably repressive in terms of
what they can say and who they can put on air. When it comes to the Paris
attacks, CNN has basically become state TV (to see just how subservient CNN
is about everything relating to terrorism, watch this unbelievable
"interview" of ex-CIA chief Jim Woolsey by CNN's Brooke Baldwin; or consider
that neither CNN nor MSNBC has put a single person on air to dispute the
CIA's blatant falsehoods about Paris despite how many journalists have
documented those falsehoods).
Labott's punishment comes just five days after two CNN anchors spent 6
straight minutes lecturing French Muslim civil rights activist Yasser Louati
that he and all other French Muslims bear "responsibility" for the attack
(the anchors weren't suspended for expressing those repulsive opinions). The
suspension comes just four days after CNN's Jim Acosta stood up in an Obama
press conference and demanded: "I think a lot of Americans have this
frustration that they see that the United States has the greatest military
in the world. . I guess the question is - and if you'll forgive the
language - is why can't we take out these bastards?" (he wasn't suspended).
It comes five days after CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour mauled Obama on-air
for not being more militaristic about ISIS (she wasn't suspended);
throughout 2013, Amanpour vehemently argued all over CNN for U.S.
intervention in Syria (she wasn't suspended).
Labott's suspension also comes less than a year after Don Lemon demanded
that Muslim human rights lawyer Arsalan Iftikhar state whether he supports
ISIS (he wasn't suspended); in 2010, Lemon strongly insinuated that all
Muslims were responsible for the 9/11 attack when he defended opposition to
an Islamic Community Center in lower Manhattan (he wasn't suspended). During
the Occupy Wall Street protests, CNN host Erin Burnett continuously mocked
the protesters while defending Wall Street (she wasn't suspended) and also
engaged in rank fear-mongering over Iran (she wasn't suspended). I could
literally spend the rest of the day pointing to opinions expressed by CNN
journalists for which they were not suspended or punished in any way.
By very stark contrast, career CNN producer Octavia Nasr was instantly fired
in 2010 after 20 years with the network for the crime of tweeting a positive
sentiment for a beloved Shia imam who had just died, after neocons
complained that he was a Hezbollah sympathizer. Earlier this year, Jim
Clancy was forced to "resign" after 30 years with CNN for tweeting
inflammatory criticisms of Israel. As I've pointed out over and over,
"journalistic objectivity" is a sham for so many reasons, beginning with the
fact that all reporting is suffused with subjective perspectives.
"Objectivity" does not ban opinions; it just bans opinions that are
particularly disfavored among those who wield the greatest power (obviously,
no CNN journalist would be punished for advocating military action against
ISIS, for instance).
But there's a more important point here than CNN's transparently farcical
notion of "objectivity." In the wake of Paris, an already-ugly and quite
dangerous anti-Muslim climate has exploded. The leading GOP presidential
candidate is speaking openly of forcing Muslims to register in databases,
closing mosques, and requiring Muslims to carry special ID cards. Another,
Rand Paul, just introduced a bill to ban refugees almost exclusively from
predominantly Muslim and/or Arab countries. Others are advocating exclusion
of Muslim refugees (Cruz) and religious tests to allow in only "proven
Christians" (Bush).
That, by any measure, is a crisis of authoritarianism. And journalists have
historically not only been permitted, but required, to raise their voice
against such dangers. Indeed, that is one of the primary roles of
journalism: to serve as a check on extremism when stoked by political
demagogues.
The two most respected American television journalists in the history of the
medium are almost certainly Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite. The
legacies of both were shaped by their raising their voices in times of
creeping radicalism and government overreach. Murrow repeatedly inveighed
against the extremism of Congressional McCarthyism, while Cronkite disputed
Pentagon claims that victory in the Vietnam War was near and instead called
for its end: "the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as
victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend
democracy, and did the best they could." Neither could survive at the
climate created at CNN:
As Murrow said in justifying his opposition to the Wisconsin Senator and his
allies: "there is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his [sic]
responsibilities."
It's not hard to envision the impact that this CNN action will have on the
next journalist who considers speaking up the way Labott (very mildly) just
did: they know doing so could imperil their career. In the face of the kind
of emerging extremism now manifest in the U.S. (and Europe), that
journalistic climate neuters journalists, renders them impotent and their
function largely irrelevant, and - by design or otherwise - obliterates a
vital check on tyrannical impulses. But that's what happens when media
outlets are viewed principally as corporate assets rather than journalistic
ones: their overriding goal is to avoid saying or doing anything that will
create conflict between them and those who wield the greatest power.
I did two interviews yesterday where I was able more or less comprehensively
to set forth my views on the behavior of the U.S. media following Paris,
which I must admit - notwithstanding my very low expectations - has
surprised (and horrified) me in terms of how subservient it is. First, there
was this interview on Democracy Now (starting at 13:00; relevant segments
are here and here), which generated more response than any I've ever done on
that show, and this shorter one on France24.
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Glenn Greenwald. (photo: Occupy.com)
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/20/cnns-punishment-of-refugee-defending-jou
rnalist-highlights-media-abdication/https://theintercept.com/2015/11/20/cnns
-punishment-of-refugee-defending-journalist-highlights-media-abdication/
CNN Punished Its Own Journalist for Fulfilling a Core Duty of Journalism By
Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept
22 November 15
NN yesterday suspended its global affairs correspondent, Elise Labott, for
two weeks for the crime of posting a tweet critical of the House vote to ban
Syrian refugees. Whether by compulsion or choice, she then groveled in
apology. This is the original tweet along with her subsequent expression of
repentance:
This all happened after The Washington Post's Erik Wemple complained that
her original tweet showed "bias." The claim that CNN journalists must be
"objective" and are not permitted to express opinions is an absolute joke.
CNN journalists constantly express opinions without being sanctioned.
Labott's crime wasn't that she expressed an opinion. It's that she expressed
the wrong opinion: after Paris, defending Muslims, even refugees, is
strictly forbidden. I've spoken with friends who work at every cable network
and they say the post-Paris climate is indescribably repressive in terms of
what they can say and who they can put on air. When it comes to the Paris
attacks, CNN has basically become state TV (to see just how subservient CNN
is about everything relating to terrorism, watch this unbelievable
"interview" of ex-CIA chief Jim Woolsey by CNN's Brooke Baldwin; or consider
that neither CNN nor MSNBC has put a single person on air to dispute the
CIA's blatant falsehoods about Paris despite how many journalists have
documented those falsehoods).
Labott's punishment comes just five days after two CNN anchors spent 6
straight minutes lecturing French Muslim civil rights activist Yasser Louati
that he and all other French Muslims bear "responsibility" for the attack
(the anchors weren't suspended for expressing those repulsive opinions). The
suspension comes just four days after CNN's Jim Acosta stood up in an Obama
press conference and demanded: "I think a lot of Americans have this
frustration that they see that the United States has the greatest military
in the world. . I guess the question is - and if you'll forgive the language
- is why can't we take out these bastards?" (he wasn't suspended). It comes
five days after CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour mauled Obama on-air for not
being more militaristic about ISIS (she wasn't suspended); throughout 2013,
Amanpour vehemently argued all over CNN for U.S. intervention in Syria (she
wasn't suspended).
Labott's suspension also comes less than a year after Don Lemon demanded
that Muslim human rights lawyer Arsalan Iftikhar state whether he supports
ISIS (he wasn't suspended); in 2010, Lemon strongly insinuated that all
Muslims were responsible for the 9/11 attack when he defended opposition to
an Islamic Community Center in lower Manhattan (he wasn't suspended). During
the Occupy Wall Street protests, CNN host Erin Burnett continuously mocked
the protesters while defending Wall Street (she wasn't suspended) and also
engaged in rank fear-mongering over Iran (she wasn't suspended). I could
literally spend the rest of the day pointing to opinions expressed by CNN
journalists for which they were not suspended or punished in any way.
By very stark contrast, career CNN producer Octavia Nasr was instantly fired
in 2010 after 20 years with the network for the crime of tweeting a positive
sentiment for a beloved Shia imam who had just died, after neocons
complained that he was a Hezbollah sympathizer. Earlier this year, Jim
Clancy was forced to "resign" after 30 years with CNN for tweeting
inflammatory criticisms of Israel. As I've pointed out over and over,
"journalistic objectivity" is a sham for so many reasons, beginning with the
fact that all reporting is suffused with subjective perspectives.
"Objectivity" does not ban opinions; it just bans opinions that are
particularly disfavored among those who wield the greatest power (obviously,
no CNN journalist would be punished for advocating military action against
ISIS, for instance).
But there's a more important point here than CNN's transparently farcical
notion of "objectivity." In the wake of Paris, an already-ugly and quite
dangerous anti-Muslim climate has exploded. The leading GOP presidential
candidate is speaking openly of forcing Muslims to register in databases,
closing mosques, and requiring Muslims to carry special ID cards. Another,
Rand Paul, just introduced a bill to ban refugees almost exclusively from
predominantly Muslim and/or Arab countries. Others are advocating exclusion
of Muslim refugees (Cruz) and religious tests to allow in only "proven
Christians" (Bush).
That, by any measure, is a crisis of authoritarianism. And journalists have
historically not only been permitted, but required, to raise their voice
against such dangers. Indeed, that is one of the primary roles of
journalism: to serve as a check on extremism when stoked by political
demagogues.
The two most respected American television journalists in the history of the
medium are almost certainly Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite. The
legacies of both were shaped by their raising their voices in times of
creeping radicalism and government overreach. Murrow repeatedly inveighed
against the extremism of Congressional McCarthyism, while Cronkite disputed
Pentagon claims that victory in the Vietnam War was near and instead called
for its end: "the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as
victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend
democracy, and did the best they could." Neither could survive at the
climate created at CNN:
As Murrow said in justifying his opposition to the Wisconsin Senator and his
allies: "there is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his [sic]
responsibilities."
It's not hard to envision the impact that this CNN action will have on the
next journalist who considers speaking up the way Labott (very mildly) just
did: they know doing so could imperil their career. In the face of the kind
of emerging extremism now manifest in the U.S. (and Europe), that
journalistic climate neuters journalists, renders them impotent and their
function largely irrelevant, and - by design or otherwise - obliterates a
vital check on tyrannical impulses. But that's what happens when media
outlets are viewed principally as corporate assets rather than journalistic
ones: their overriding goal is to avoid saying or doing anything that will
create conflict between them and those who wield the greatest power.
I did two interviews yesterday where I was able more or less comprehensively
to set forth my views on the behavior of the U.S. media following Paris,
which I must admit - notwithstanding my very low expectations - has
surprised (and horrified) me in terms of how subservient it is. First, there
was this interview on Democracy Now (starting at 13:00; relevant segments
are here and here), which generated more response than any I've ever done on
that show, and this shorter one on France24.
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