As long as you seem to be in a mood to listen let me add another
suggestion. As the list owner here I have the power to censor any
message you post. I could put you on moderation so that I would have to
approve anything you post before it showed up on the list. I have
allowed you to subscribe or unsubscribe as you please and when you did
unsubscribe I allowed you to come back when you chose and right after
you unsubscribed I predicted that you would be back. You did surprise
even me, though, at how quickly you came back. I could unsubscribe you
and ban you. I have never done that though. I have allowed anything you
wanted to post to be posted and I do not plan to change that practice. I
consider this to be a free speech zone. But you could give yourself the
same powers. You could start your own email list. I don't mean a
personal list. I mean a list hosted by one of the email list hosts like
Freelists. You could say in the group description that it is a list for
the promotion of Islam and you could make the rules about what could be
posted. Then anyone who was interested could subscribe. If your
subscribers knew what they were getting into and could unsubscribe at
any time if it was not what they thought they were getting into then it
would not be harassment. If no one subscribed that would give you an
idea of just how welcome or unwelcome your proselytizing is. But you
could proselytize as much as you wished with an audience that subscribed
especially to read what you have to say. If you do this I will welcome
your posting an announcement about it on this list with instructions on
how to subscribe.
---
Christopher Hitchens
“ What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
”
― Christopher Hitchens,
On 4/18/2019 2:56 PM, Mostafa wrote:
With this, I agree with you. I might be a bit too excited as it is my
major and I want to practice and exchange perspectives. It is not
necessarily that I force it on others. Thank you for this though.
On 4/18/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
What I mean is what I have been telling you all along. You first came to
my attention when people were complaining that you had put them on your
personal mailing list and kept bombarding them with proselytizing
religious messages and would not remove them no matter how much they
asked to be removed. Then you would subscribe to email lists just to
harvest email addresses so that you could continue to do the same to
others. Aside from that, virtually every message you post to this group
or any other email list you are in always relates in some way to your
religion with the obvious purpose of proselytizing. You are the very
type who actually chased me down the street screaming to me about Jesus.
This is all harassment. It causes resentment and drives people away. You
could do a lot more for promoting the acceptance of Islam if you would
just state that you are a Muslim and then engage in affable discussion
with people on whatever topic they wanted to talk about and thereby
making a positive impression of what a Muslim is like. Instead you
bombard others with proselytizing that is entirely unwelcome and you do
it while clearly identifying yourself as a Muslim and clearly identify
what you are pushing at them as Islam. I am afraid that what you are
actually spreading is a resentment against Islam and Muslims. If you
cannot stop yourself from proselytizing then you could at least wait for
people to ask you for information on the topic and engage with them in a
kind way rather than force it on the unwilling.
---
Christopher Hitchens
“ What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence. ”
― Christopher Hitchens,
On 4/18/2019 2:55 AM, Mostafa wrote:
Well, first of all, thank you for your message. I agree with you that
Islamophobia isn't ubiquitous. But, the lack of proper education and
the continuous publicity of prejudice and hate based stereotype could
make it so. What do you mean harassing people by my religion?
If you respond calmly and make no false claim of defeating me and that
childish stuff, I promise you to treat you respectively.
On 4/18/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It is unfortunate that Islamophobia is widespread in the USA, but it is
far from ubiquitous. The election of Congresswoman Omar is evidence of
that. Yes, she was elected in a state with a higher Muslim population
than most other states, but she could not have been elected without a
lot, a whole lot, of votes from non Muslims. Personally, I have met
numerous Muslims, most of them were foreign students when I was in
college and I have met some American born Muslims too. Generally
speaking they are pleasant people and I expect that when they have
interacted with non Muslims they would have probably ameliorated any
Islamophobic tendencies that might have been festering. Most Americans
probably have not met any Muslims, though, and don't know what they are
like. I think that what has encouraged Islamophobia the most is the well
publicized terrorist attacks and the fact that those attacks were
justified by their perpetrators with Islam and the imperialist state had
little interest in playing that down. That is, when another people are
attacked by the imperialists it is not likely that they will get mass
support for these adventures if they made an issue of their real
reasons, but if they can get or allow the people to hate that group of
people for unrelated reasons they can get popular support. But I think
that I can identify one reason that Islamophobia is not as rampant in
America as it could be. That is that I know of no cases in which Muslims
harass people with their religion. The ones I have known certainly never
did and I don't know of anyone else who was harassed with Islam. If they
did that could cause some resentment. And that is something that worries
me about you, Mostafa. I am afraid that your unrelenting harassment of
people by email with your religion may be causing some amount of
Islamophobia where there was none before.
---
Christopher Hitchens
“ What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence. ”
― Christopher Hitchens,
On 4/17/2019 7:25 PM, Mostafa wrote:
Despite averred claims of maintaining racial equivalence, Trump and
his white supremacist camp continue to purposely plague the putatively
Muslim congresswoman of Minnesota. They invidiously keep spiting her
because of the faith she purportedly embraces and the race she
ethnically belongs to. Unlike many Muslims and Arabs, I never coveted
residing in the United States. People typically immigrate there for
essentially vivider mercantilism. Be that as it may, they knew life
therein isn't opulent. Citizens of primarily Caucasoid race are
immensely privileged while others are deliberately diminished. The
purportedly perfected portrait of social integrity in the States is
intemperately collapsible. Many people are miserably ambivalent
about the truth of the United States. I don't know whether this
Minnesotan distaff congressional representative is genuinely Muslim.
Nonetheless, I knew that the exemplum of this nation is principally
based on racial disparity since its inception. You may revise
America's racial history and the events associated with it. In the
States, racial discrimination is conspicuously notorious, Islamophobia
is so lucrative and greed supersedes law enforcement. What is left for
a dignified nation then? At his massive rally of El Paso Texas last
February, Trump escorted one of his supporters wearing the slaphappy
make America great again hat deliberately shoving one of the
reporters. He targeted the press, swore at them and then had been
wrestled by a security guard. Trump oversaw what happened. Instead of
declining his aggressive behaviour, he shamelessly signaled approval
to the hostile guy, saying twice, thank you. In El Paso which is a
Texan city located on the western side of the States close to the
Mexican border, Trump held an insanely xenophobic rally, whereas he
dissed and spoke so rudely of immigrants. The situation in the United
States is quite despondent. I will confirm what I already iterated
earlier, Trump isn't the essence of the crisis. The ones who spat and
enthusiastically cheer for his unbearable impudence are. I strongly
scold Muslims and Arabs who cluelessly assume that the States could
possibly one day, respect their culture and where they come from.
Essentially, they use the September eleventh incidents to coercively
demonise us, which will never be tolerated. Trump is merely an iconic
symble of the core of American values. So, you either be a typical
copy of me, which means to basically betray your faith, nation and
snitch your people. Alternatively, you could be a distorted copy of
mine, be savagely manipulated by my culture and be civilly defeated.
Ultimately, you are the terrorist that I must utterly extinguish. Post
to 9/11, the eruption of dementedly hostile acts have prodigiously
skirted the scene of America. So for instance, we couldn't
conveniently dismiss the detestably Floridian reverend who
maliciously desecrated the Koran. He justified his vindictive act as
an attempt to eh, commemorate the September eleventh victims. Although
he was allegedly attributed to the arena of religious ministry, he
justified his hateful act with ultranationalistic motives. He was of
course condemned for this, but this shall not nullify the decisive
fact, that American cultural tenets in general are enormously
insalubrious to the rest of the world. The concept of freedom in
America is a major threat to us. Does their misapprehension of liberty
justify vandalism, hate rhetoric incitement, sacrilege and mass rifle
turbulency? The world isn't at America's command. There is a broad
disintegration of what America does everywhere around the world. This
ecumenical denial could gradually be turned to repudiation unless
America amends its policies and how it sees the world. If you are
Muslim and want to be fastly granted visa, asylum and perhaps
perminent residence in America, here is what you might do to be warmly
recognised and welcomed. First, apostate, claim you were a dangerous
terrorist and denounce Islam on social media platform. The latter is
wholly operated and watched over by them, so it's good to begin with
this. Second, circulate your denouncement and defamation of Islam
across mass broadcasting stations therein. Third, publicise yourself
through building a fishy website, urge donors to contribute, so you
could extend your remarkable legacy. If you attracted them, you may
end up speaking at Churches and college campuses. Good luck folks, how
great America is. Imagine if you just thought of doing the quarter of
this to the Zionist lobby that explicitly dominate Capitol Hill. You
will leastwise be instantly, labeled with antisemitism, if not
detained and possibly rather deported with surely your reputation
wholly destroyed. Freedom of speech is critically strained in America.
Lastly, don't cause us a head ache with the freedom of speech song
because you knew quite well, this is gravely counterfeit and nothing
but false. Thanks for joining me.
