He's talking about a particular Islamic sect. The part about women drivers is
definitely true in Saudi Arabia. But the other practices are intrinsic in the
way certain people observe Islam. This is similar to Judaism in that there are
different branches of Judaism. The Orthodox branch is the most extreme, but it
can also be divided into various sects which are even more extreme then Modern
Orthodoxy. So when we start going into the particulars, we're bound to make
errors. I just finished reading the memoir of a Jewish woman who left the
Modern Orthodox branch and is attempting to describe her new, individual way of
relating to the Jewish religion. Reading about what she left, the absolute
insanity of the incredible number of rules that govern every bit of life when
you are Orthodox, reminded me of how naïve we are when we consider people who
are members of these extremist groups.
Miriam
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Not to mitigate the oppressive conditions for women in Saudi Arabia, but I
think you are attributing some practices that Pakistan and SubSaharan Africa
are known for to Saudi Arabia.
On 10/4/2018 7:00 AM, Bob Hachey wrote:
Hi Mostafa and all,
The US certainly does not hold a monopoly when it comes to misogyny and the
subjugation of women. For example, let's take a look at one of the shrines of
Islam, the city of Mecca. Mecca is located in Saudi Arabia where women gain
the right to drive a car only a few short months ago. The Saudis had a
horrible history when it comes to treatment of women. Women need permission
from a husband or other male relative to obtain employment, an apartment or a
bank account. Some Saudis practice the horrible tradition of female genital
mutilation. Also, when women are raped, some men will do what's known as aan
"honor killing." The idea is that the victim has somehow dishonored her
family and by her death, that dishonor is dissolved.
I'll take life as a woman every day over life as a woman in Saudi Arabia.
This is not to excuse the way women are treated here in America. The point
here is that many religions and traditions throughout the world treat women
badly.
Bob Hachey
