Great. Where could I read about them and possibly interact with them.
On 7/9/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mustafa,
It is the media that are not reporting about Jewish people with anti Zionist
views. There are very wealthy and powerful sources that are promoting
Zionism. The important newspapers here, barely report any stories that shed
a poor light on Israel and they do not give a voice to anti Zionist Jews.
You have to read the alternative media to learn about them. There's a group
in America called Jewish Voice For Peace which is very actdively working to
support Palestinian rights. Most of its members are young. There is also a
peace group called Code Pink. One of the issues that they work on is Israel
Palestine, and many of their members are Jewish. But I doubt that you're
going to read about these groups in the Egyptian press.
Miriam
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Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 7:47 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: AddendumF Re: my random thoughts versus
yours
Mariam, what you said sounds quite attractive and intriguing.
Nonetheless, those Jews who’re against Israel aren’t active as they should
be. I’d hope to see them openly promoting their opinion of Israel. They
aren’t prevalent in the media as they should. I could barely notice them.
Israel doesn’t care about those Jews. Thence, they’re ostensibly
unaffecting, inept.
On 7/8/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's interesting. That thing about, "jewing you down", comes from the
fact that in Europe, Jews were limited to being money lenders. They
weren't allowed to do any other work. I think that was in the middle
ages. It's always been a common expression in the US. But given where
you live, it is amazing that you didn't absorb more antisemitism.
Miriam
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 9:44 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: AddendumF Re: my random thoughts versus
yours
Now that I think about it I think I was really lucky to have not been
indoctrinated into that kind of racist ideology myself. I have
mentioned before that my paternal grandfather had been a member of the Ku
Klux Klan.
My maternal grandparents were not exactly paragons of progressivism
either, but I was in much closer and frequent contact with my paternal
grandparents because they lived next door. In retrospect I think the
main reason my grandfather was reticent about his ideological leanings
with me was because he always regarded me as just a kid and from his
perspective you just didn't talk about serious things with a kid. I
knew about his affiliation with the KKK from one conversation and only
one conversation. I was once saying something disparaging about the
KKK and that was when he said that he had once been a member, but that
he had dropped out when "them durned radicals took over." I don't know
what counts as a durned radical in the KKK, but he went on to describe
the Klan as once a fine organization. The things that he thought made
it fine sure didn't seem fine to me, but the way he described it it
sounded more like a morality police that targeted white people more
than any other groups. In regard to Jews, though, he didn't mention
Jews in that conversation, but at other times his attitude to Jews did
show. I remember his referring to someone who was trying to get the
better end of a deal with him as trying to Jew him, but at that time
it didn't quite register with me that he was making a reference to the
Jewish people. In fact, I think my realization that he didn't like
Jews came from one conversation too. I remember sitting in his car
with him while we were waiting for my grandmother and I don't quite
remember how it came up, but somehow it did come up that he didn't
like Jews. I was completely perplexed, so I asked him why he didn't
like Jews. He answered, "Why don't you like Fred?" Well, Fred was a
person I certainly did not like and I did have specific reasons for
not liking him, but I didn't care to explain it to my grandfather. I
think my grandfather's implication was that I was unable to
articulate?? my reasons for that particular dislike. Oh, I could have
articulated it, but I didn't want to, so I just dropped the subject.
But my grandfather was reticent about a lot of things, his KKK
affiliation, his religion and so forth. In fact, I think it was his
reticence about his hard-shell Baptist religion that allowed me to not
be indoctrinated into religion and to not even remember hearing about
god until I started to school. I wonder how I would have turned out if my
grandfather had tried to indoctrinate me into his positions on politics,
religion and attitudes toward various ethnicities.
---
Voltaire
??? Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities. ???
??? Voltaire,
On 7/7/2019 7:56 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Actually Miriam, what I believe is that there is an undercurrent of
hatred and mistrust toward Jews, by the Privileged White Racists, and
of their sycophants, At times the window dressing is different, and
often it is deliberately misleading. but it seems to me that so many
times, those in power use suspicion and hatred as tools in managing
the people beneath them. Jews have been a favorite target since Adam
and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, setting the tone for
the treatment of Jews down through the centuries.
Some years ago a Seattle attorney whose last name was Goldmark, was
murdered along with his wife and two children. The murderer was
apprehended and confessed that he hated Jews. The Goldmarks were not
Jews.
I have tons to say on the subject, mostly conjecture on my part, but
I am about to have an early supper and listen to a murder novel to
relax my mind(grin).
Carl Jarvis
On 7/7/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mustafa,
I'm going to try to answer you, one point at a time.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: AddendumF Re: my random thoughts
versus yours
Miriam, your approach seems to be honest and rather intriguing. I
actually am interested to learn more about your experience. How has
this started?
What made you believe in the statehood of Israel and what was the
shifting point that led you to dispose of it?
I was about ten years old when Israel was created. Everyone in my
family believed that having a Jewish State was a wonderful thing
because Jews had been hated and discriminated against for so long
and because 6 million Jews were exterminated in Nazi death camps.
Everyone believed that we needed a place to which to escape, the
next time another country began doing what the Nazis had done. The
people in my family believed the Zionist propaganda which stated
that the Palestinians were all uneducated Nomads. They never called
them Palestinians. They called them, "Arabs". They thought that they
could easily live in the surrounding Arab countries. I was just a
child. I absorbed all of that. But I grew up. I went to college and
graduate school.
I read a lot. I am an independent thinker. And I have always been
concerned about groups of people who are mistreated like African
Americans and Native Americans, and poor people.
I tend to question everything. I never practiced the Jewish
religion, but I absorbed the values and tradition. Here in the US,
Jewish people have always been involved in social justice movements.
They were active in the labor movement and in the civil rights
movement.
They ran excellent social welfare agencies. I've always identified
with that part of Jewish tradition.
In my work, I met people who had lived in Israel and who had visited
Israel, and they described it to me. That was in the 1980's. I
realized that Israel was very different from the way it had been
described by the media and in the books I read. And then there was
that massacre of Palestinians in a refugee camp in 1982 in which the
Israelis were involved. One of my clients had lived in Israel for a
time and she also wrote a novel about it. I realized, from talking
to her and reading her book, that the Palestinians who were Israeli
citizens, did not have equal rights with Jewish Israelis.
In the 1990's, I thought that the two state solution might be the
right idea. But in the mid 1990's, I got a computer and that allowed
me to read a lot more. After the US attacked Iraq in 2003, I began
to see that the people in the US government who supported Israel,
were supporting much of what the US was doing in the Middle East and
all of it was wrong. And then I read a book by an Israeli historian
called The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. I watched what Israel did
to Gaza at the end of 2008. I joined an Israeli email list which was
opposed to Israeli policy. My whole view of Israel and Palestine had
changed by 2008.
It isn???t something typical for someone from Jewish background who
lives in America to dissent with Israel and its brutal practices in
Palestine.
Among American Jews, there are a variety of opinions. Probably, a
majority of older people still support Israel, but not all of them
do. After all, I'm going to be 82 years old, and I do not. Among the
younger Jews, a large number have begun to question Jewish support
of Israel. There are several very active anti Zionist Jewish groups
in the US and Canada. The young people are reacting to the crimes
that Israel is committing.
Do you think that the Nazi persecution in Europe was the key factor
by which Jews have been urged to seek a new land?
Yes, that was the impetus. But in the late nineteenth century, Jews
also emigrated to Palestine because of European antisemitism. Most
of them were secular Jews, but they chose Palestine because of the
fact that Jews came from there originally.
And, to the settlers in the occupied West Bank, what have made them
able to remain in perhaps the most litigious region on earth
I can't explain these people. They are very religious and very
assertive.
Many of them came from Russia where they had very little and felt
unwanted, so now that they emigrated to Israel, they want to assert
Israeli rights over the land. It makes them feel important. The more
educated Jews of European background, tend to live in Israel , not
the West Bank, and they have favored status. They are the elite, and
therefore, they don't have a need to bully people openly.
? Carl, your experience back then has given me an idea how Jews were
maltreated. Is that why their star is so high now in America? Do
European Christians feel somewhat guilty toward Jews that they
react tolerantly toward their enormous atrocities perpetrated in
Palestine?
I am attempting to fathom and somehow connect the puzzle. How in the
past, Christians used to despise and persecute Jews and as of right
now, they???re their closest ally. How has this unfolded? They
chased them in Europe and then, helped them establish a homeland in
Palestine. What has changed after the second world war? I hope I
could discern.
I'm not Carl, but I'll answer. It is Evangelical Christians who are
strongly supporting Israel. But not because they have suddenly
valued Jews. Israel fits into their fantasy of "The End Times". They
need Issrael to exist in order for the chosen to rise to heaven. The
Jews will be discarded, along with everyone else who isn't "saved".
Following up your last point, how could the two states solution be
applied?
And about those were born there, they knew they reside in an
occupied territory, even if they attempt to justify and even
legitimise their colonisation.
On 7/7/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mustafa,
There's one point that you made, with which I don't agree. You said
that all of the Jews living in Israel should return to the
countries from which they came. But the fact is that most of the
people who live in Israel, were born there or have made it their
permanent home. They don't have homes to which to return. I think
that we have to accept that Israel exists. But what should happen,
is that it should be changed. It should no longer be a Jewish
State. It should be Israel/Palestine, a democratic country with no
walls, no barriers, and where everyone, Jew, Muslim, Christian,
member of any other religion, and non believer, should be equal
with an equal vote. The government should not be aligned with any
particular religion. All of the Palestinians, living in the
diaspora, should be allowed to return, if they wish to.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 1:15 PM
To: 'blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [blind-democracy] Re: my random thoughts versus yours
Mustafa,
I agree with what you say about Israel. And there are many Jews who
also agree with you. And no, I have no relatives living in Israel.
But I want to explain to you that it took me many years to
understand the truth about Israel. And learning the truth and
changing what I believed and what I had thought to be true, was a
very painful process. Jews were traumatized by what happened to
Jews in Europe during the second world war. And they were lied to
by the media and by their governments, about Israel. Additionally,
it wasn't until recently that we have all learned the truth about
the Zionist project to take over all of Palestine. That project
existed since the early 1930's, but it was kept a secret. So what
I'm saying is that Jewish people were manipulated, as were
Americans, who were taught that Israel is a democratic country and
an ally whom they should support.
That lie has torn the Middle East apart and it has turned America
into an autocracy with a democratic fa??ade. But then, most
governments lie to their people, manipulate them, and use them in
order to gain power in relation to other countries.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mostafa
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 7:55 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: my random thoughts versus yours
Well Miriam, I think many Jews around the world have been trapped
into the deceitful notion, that Israel is presumptively the ideal
solution for mass Jewish persecution. I watched various television
series, featuring tales about Egyptian Jews whom had been beguiled
to immigrate to Israel. Laila Mourad is a popularly distinct
Egyptian vocalist and actress from Jewish background. Many
including myself still love her songs and movies. I want to ask
you, do you have relatives who live in Israel? If so, what???s their
experience?
Have you ever considered settling their yourself? In my opinion,
the problem of Israel, beyond territory occupation, is the fact
that each and everyone therein is forcefully a soldier in the army.
Furthermore, they constantly build walls, establish settlements
while backed by the US. They do so because they knew they hooked
this land. Thence, they are somewhat coerced to pestilently
confront their victim everyday.
Furthermore, I noticed the construction of the separation wall or
barrier into the West Bank has substantially been accelerated. So,
I believe that the major crisis has been evidently misidentified.
The two states solution isn???t practical at all. Jews ought to
redress the situation and consistently retrovert to where they were
originally from. Otherwise, the conflict shall remain, probably
will heighten and it won???t ever be solved. The idea of Israel has
instigated Arabs to react vindictively. Jews are despised for
viciously playing the victim role while they relentlessly sabotage
and subjugate innocently civilian Palestinians periodically. Peace
talks aren???t expected to be of any significance if they???re
conducted unilaterally. In addition, Antisemitism verboten has to
be utterly revoked. People must be able to freely criticise what
Israel does without being threatened of losing their job or getting
their reputation dreadfully ruined. That???s why, the New York
Times has been scandalously coerced to submissively apologise for
portraying a political satire. Nonetheless, when a Danish magazine
drew an offensive caricature of prophet Muhammad, it hasn???t been
compeled to apologise nor even demanded to. The subject is
essentially complected. For sure, Jews are two holy to be
criticised in the west, that???s a fact. At the same time, we
aren???t suppose to biasedly generalise. I???d hope that Jews
recognise what the problem really is and attempt to solve it
themselves.
Even those who may not necessarily agree with what Israel does,
aren???t enacting their proposition properly or proceeding it
gradually into the legal arena.
For the United States, Israel is quite sanctimonious. How many time
Israeli war criminals who intently perpetrated white phosphorus
against innocent civilians of Gaza have been brought to justice?
How many time the US sternly vetoed a resolution issued by the UN
that is destined to push peace process forward for the sake of Israel?
How many time Israel???s secret nuclear arsenal has been probed nor
even oppugned? The west and the States in particular must develop
the motivating factor by which they could devotedly interrogate
about what Israel does on that regard. If the States truly cares
about establishing genuine peace in the Middle East, it must quit
arming Israel and start negotiating the proposed departure deal.
What a Jewish of Russian background has got to do with Palestine? I
think what I say makes sense, quite so far. Your opinion Miriam?
On 7/6/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mustafa,
Most people of my generation and previous generation who come from
Jewish backgrounds, experienced antisemitism at some time in their
lives. That is the reason that so many of us supported the
creation of the State of Israel.
Because of centuries of antisemitism and then the Nazis'
persecution of the Jews, they thought that a country, dedicated to
Jewish people, would protect them in the future. Not all Jews felt
that way, but after the second world war, many did. And we were
kept ignorant of all the details of what was done in order to
create Israel. American Jews, at least most of them, believed that
by now, at least in the US, anti-semitism had disappeared. But
after the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency,
anti-semitism, which has been pretty much hidden for decades here,
is now apparent again.
But I don't think about it as religious discrimination. What I
think is that when people, any people, have been taught that their
race or their religion or their country is superior to everyone
else's, there's always a potential for them to turn on other
people who are different from them. If they are feeling frightened
about their own security, it's very easy for people in leadership
positions to turn them against other people.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mostafa
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 1:40 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: my random thoughts versus yours
Miriam, it's so sad that you were disallowed from entering some
places for your religious background.
On 7/6/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Weather? When I was young, in New York, June was sunny and warm.
July was sunny and hot. August was muggy, sometimes rainy,
sometimes sunny, until the end when we would have one or two
cooler sunny days to remind us that autumn was on the way. It has
been hot and muggy for days now. We've had some rain and some
thunder. Back in the old days, thunder storms were reserved for
the end of July and August.
Today is cloudy, hot and muggy, with rainstorms forecast for the
afternoon.
Car trips. We were working class city people with no real need
for a car because New York City had good, inexpensive, public
transportation. But when I was nine or ten years old, my father
bought a car. The first one was a Chevrolet. The color was
crystal green and my very fashion conscious mother just loved that
color.
Each summer, we would travel by car to Montreal to visit my
father's family. It would be a slow, rambling trip up through New
York State with stops at various tourist attractions like Niagara
Falls, and back home through New England. There was a wonderful
restaurant called, The Springs, somewhere in Massachusetts, that
we stumbled on one year and where we made sure to return each
year. Two of my father's brothers had also emigrated from Canada
to the US and one year, one of them, with his wife and son,
traveled back to Montreal with us. No rambling that time, just
one or two very long days of riding in a car. But that was the
year, I think, that after we visited the family in Montreal, we
traveled to the Mountains in Quebec Province for vacation. But
we couldn't find a hotel because no one would allow Jews. One
place said we could stay in a cabin, but we weren't allowed in
the dining room.
So we kept riding. And then we saw a beautiful hotel on an island
in the middle of a lake. We were sure that since it looked so
fancy, we would surely be excluded from there too, but we thought
we'd try anyway.
Luckily, the owner was Jewish. We were allowed in and absolutely
loved our stay there.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 11:49 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Fwd: An Hour with Noam Chomsky on
Fascism, Nuclear Weapons, Climate Change, Julian Assange & More |
Daily Digest
07/05/2019
Hi Miriam...and anyone else still recovering from the Fourth of
July.
Rereading is probably more related to temperate, as you say,
rather than age related. But I wonder how it is that you
continue to read...or at least skim my posts, since redundancy is
my middle name.
I always figured that I just had a limited vocabulary. Not like
our friend in Egypt!
It's Saturday, July Sixth, and it's raining. All night it rained.
20%, the weather person said. Well Mister/Missus Weather person,
we got 20% five times! It reminds me of the many times we put
the four man surplus Army tent in the trunk of our old Hudson,
called the Family Bus, and tossed in some food and sleeping
bedding, and headed out on a sort of sunny July Fourth, looking
to commune with Nature.
Sometimes we drove down the Coast into Oregon and sometimes we
headed up toward Bellingham. I liked it best when we turned the
Family Bus toward the East, and wound up at grandma and grandpa's
farm in the Spokane Valley. No sleeping on lumpy rocks at
grandma's. Sure, the beds were old and lumpy and sagged to the
middle, but it was dry and hot and beat the rain that was falling
on the Coast.
It seemed to always rain over Fourth of July weekend. Come to
think of it, it always seemed to rain on Memorial Day
weekend...and Labor Day weekend, too. And it was always a fine,
soaking rain. Mother called it, "Oregon Mist". Then she would
add, "It mist Oregon and hit Washington".
Something I learned early on...well, a couple of things, was that
Four Man Army Surplus Tents are made to accommodate three
undersized soldiers. We had two fairly large adults and three
varying sizes of children. Crowded was a bad joke. It was
impossible to crawl out over sleeping bodies if you had to go out
in the middle of the night...and there was only one compelling
reason anyone in their right mind would crawl out of the safety
of that four man tent, into the wet, clammy, very dark night.
And the other important thing I learned about canvas tents and
rain, Do Not Touch the Canvas when it is raining. Mother and Dad
told us this warning every time we headed out...in the rain. You
would think that the first time we disobeyed them, we would never
touch the tent's canvas roof. As soon as a stray finger explored
the tents surface, a drop of water would form.
And there was no way to put it back. It would draw more water
into itself and then drop...splat!
And another drop would form...
This foolishness always happened, but always over my sisters or
myself.
Never, ever did anyone touch the tent above our parents.
They slept warm and dry while us three kids wiggled and squirmed
while trying to avoid the drips.
One time we found a beautiful valley in Western Oregon,
accessible only by a couple of ruts that went straight down the
edge of a high rock wall and a steep drop off on the other side.
We pitched...or actually we struggled the tent into an upright
position and then began slapping our arms and necks.
We saw no mosquitoes, but little welts began rising up on our
exposed skin.
"No See ums'!" my dad announced.
"You can't see them because all there is to them are teeth with
wings".
After we tired of slapping, we hauled down the tent and crawled
back up that rutty road with the windows all rolled up. That was
another joy in summer camping trips. Old 1938 Hudson's were
roomy, but air conditioning was available only by cranking down
the windows. One trip through Roseburg, Oregon it was 105
degrees, with that hot sun beating down on an all metal car.
That trip we had five adults and Mimi, our small family dog of
many breeds.
Poor Mimi, she hated long trips, but had to go because she had
bonded with Mother. She always threw up within the first hour.
Then she was fine for the rest of the outing, no matter how many
days we were gone.
That is when Mimi became "Our dog", meaning my sister's and mine.
We got to clean the pukey newspaper out of her box and toss the
stinking mess into a waste barrel when we stopped for gas...or
had to put water in our boiling radiator...or add air to our soft
tires.
You would think that such memories would guarantee that I would
live deep in the heart of a large city. But something about
heading into the unknown moved my heart and Soul...and moved us
finally to our ten acre horse farm in the wilds of the Great
Olympic Peninsula...where I've never met a tree I didn't like.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/6/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
There are a lot of young people who read books over and over again.
It has nothing to do with age. I know because of what people
write on the DB Review list. And when I listen to these
podcasts, I'm hearing the same subjects discussed repeatedly,
but sometimes with new facts thrown into the mix. I just don't
like hearing the same words repeated. I guess it's temperament.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:46 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Fwd: An Hour with Noam Chomsky on
Fascism, Nuclear Weapons, Climate Change, Julian Assange & More
| Daily Digest
07/05/2019
Miriam,
It's one of those subtle signs that I'm getting long in the tooth.
I used to read or listen to information, or read a novel, and
never dream of wasting my time reading or listening to it
again...ever!
But in recent years I find myself listening to the same articles
or the same speakers, and actually learning new
information...again.
I'm sure that this relaxing of my mental process is not the only
indication of the aging process, but being blind, I never worry
about what would stare back at me from my mirror.
I do chuckle when Cathy and I return home after working with two
clients, and we can barely stagger into our recliners. When we
began back in 1995, we saw two clients in the morning and two
clients following lunch. And we worked five days a week in the
field, not just Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, and we wrote
our reports in the late evening.
If I kept that sort of schedule today, I'd last about one
day...and no reports would ever be written.
By the way, I read A People's History of the United States, twice.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/5/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Again, another repeat. I've just learned from experience that
on holidays, Democracy Now repeats past performances. I may be
weird, but just like I don't reread books, I don't listen to
repeat programs.
Happily, I had plenty of podcasts to listen to yesterday and if
there aren't enough today, I have more than enough books. I've
just unsubscribed from my second New York Times podcast. The
first was The Daily, because I didn't like the way they framed
most of the news stories they presented. It felt like a well
planned propaganda presentation. Now, I've deleted The Argument.
The most left wing of the three presenters, is, from my point
of view, just slightly left of the center of the Democratic Party.
They're supposed to be providing a right of center, center
left, and leftist view of issues.
That's ridiculous.
There's a whole spectrum of viewpoints on the left that they're
omitting.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:50 AM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Fwd: An Hour with Noam Chomsky on
Fascism, Nuclear Weapons, Climate Change, Julian Assange & More
| Daily Digest
07/05/2019
From the mind of our nation's leading elder statesman, to your
ears.
An address from this past April, and an interview by Amy Goodman.
Carl Jarvis
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