Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is why it's a bad idea to pass legislation banning the sale of guns toThe terrorist no fly list.
people on the terror watch list or no fly list.
Miriam
Outrageous Examples of People Who Really Didn't Belong on the
10 Outrageous Examples of People Who Really Didn't Belong on the Feds'
Terror Watch List exandra Rosenmann [1] / AlterNet [2]
June 16, 2016
In the wake of the Orlando massacre, even some of the biggest objectors to
gun control are opening the door to restrictions.
"I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing
people on the terrorist watch list, or the no-fly list, to buy guns,"
Donald
Trump tweeted [3] Wednesday, surprising both the left and right.
"For Democrats, however, the move amounts to a strong endorsement of a
system that civil liberties advocates have called a "Kafkaesque
bureaucracy," and which some Democrats have previously criticized for being
secretive, unaccountable, and discriminatory," The Intercept reported [4]
in
response to the controversy.
"According to interagency watchlisting guidelines [5] The Intercept
published in 2014, it takes neither "concrete facts" nor "irrefutable
evidence" to add someone's name as a terror suspect. The guidelines allow
the administration to name individuals as representatives of terrorist
groups they have no demonstrable connection to and to put entire
"categories" of people on the no-fly list," said the Intercept.
The easist way to find out if you're on the "no fly list" is, of course, at
the airport. This was also the only way to find out if your name appeared
until [6] just two years ago.
Here are just 10 of the most outrageous entries in the system:
1. US Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
''Tried to get on a plane back to Washington,'' Mr. Kennedy explained on
the
Senate floor in 2004. '''You can't get on the plane.' I went up to the desk
and said, 'I've been getting on this plane, you know, for 42 years. Why
can't I get on the plane?'''
"Mr. Kennedy said his situation highlighted the odyssey encountered by
people whose names had mistakenly appeared on terrorist watch lists or
resembled the names of suspected terrorists on such lists. In April, the
American Civil Liberties Union sued the government on behalf of seven
airline passengers who said they had wrongly been placed on no-fly lists or
associated with names on the lists and could not find a way to clarify
their
identities," The New York Times reported [7].
2. Bolivian President Evo Morales
The name of the president who has been highly critical of the Obama
Administration was discovered [8] on the terrorist watch list in 2009.
"The capitalist system that Obama represents is not a policy that embodies
the people of the United States, but a policy of the transnational
corporations, especially of those that commercialize weapons and push for
an
arms race," Morales told RT America in 2014.
"This kind of intervention that the US government provokes is a business to
them - a business that ends people's lives," Morales added.
3. Nelson Mandela
"Nelson Mandela is being remembered across the world (and political
spectrum) for his heroic, life-long battle against apartheid and injustice
in South Africa. But with all the accolades being thrown around, it's easy
to forget that the U.S., in particular, hasn't always had such a friendly
relationship with Mandela -- and that in fact, as late as 2008, the Nobel
Prize winner and former president was still on the U.S. terrorism watch
list," the Washington Post revealed [9] in 2013. As it turns out, because
Mandela was part of the African National Congress, the group trying to
overthrow the white apartheid-supporting government, he was placed on South
Africa's list, which the US adopted.
4 - 6. The James Robinsons
A former US Attorney General, an airline pilot and a third grader all share
the name "James Robinson" and are all on the terrorist watch list.
7. CNN Reporter Drew Griffin
Coinidentally, Griffin was also placed on the watch list "shortly after I
began a series of investigative reports critical of the TSA," he told CNN.
8. 6-Year-Old Alyssa Thomas
"We were puzzled," Dr. Santosh Thomas, Alyssa's father told CNN in 2011.
The
family found out at the Continental check-in after having booked a flight
from Cleveland to Minneapolis. "They said, 'She's on a list,' I said,
'Well,
what does she have to do to get off that list?"
9. 8-Year-Old Mikey Hicks
"My mom thinks that some terrorist has the same name as me and my dad,"
Hicks told CBS. According to his mother, the family has had to battle with
this unfortunate discrepency nearly Mikey's entire life.
10. Stanford Ph.D Student Rahinah Ibrahim
In January 2014, a federal judge ruled [10] that, "the Department of
Homeland Security made a "mistake" when it put a former Stanford University
PhD student on the government's no-fly terrorist watch list and must give
her an opportunity to apply for reentry to the United States."
That was nearly a decade after Ibrahim discovered she was even on the list
-
in 2005. Ibrahim's case was "the first and only successful challenge to the
terrorist watch-listing program, which arose following the 9/11 attacks,"
Ars Technica confirmed [11].
Alexandra Rosenmann is an AlterNet associate editor. Follow her
@alexpreditor [12].
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June 16, 2016
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In the wake of the Orlando massacre, even some of the biggest objectors to
gun control are opening the door to restrictions.
"I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing
people on the terrorist watch list, or the no-fly list, to buy guns,"
Donald
Trump tweeted [3] Wednesday, surprising both the left and right.
"For Democrats, however, the move amounts to a strong endorsement of a
system that civil liberties advocates have called a "Kafkaesque
bureaucracy," and which some Democrats have previously criticized for being
secretive, unaccountable, and discriminatory," The Intercept reported [4]
in
response to the controversy.
"According to interagency watchlisting guidelines [5] The Intercept
published in 2014, it takes neither "concrete facts" nor "irrefutable
evidence" to add someone's name as a terror suspect. The guidelines allow
the administration to name individuals as representatives of terrorist
groups they have no demonstrable connection to and to put entire
"categories" of people on the no-fly list," said the Intercept.
The easist way to find out if you're on the "no fly list" is, of course, at
the airport. This was also the only way to find out if your name appeared
until [6] just two years ago.
Here are just 10 of the most outrageous entries in the system:
1. US Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
''Tried to get on a plane back to Washington,'' Mr. Kennedy explained on
the
Senate floor in 2004. '''You can't get on the plane.' I went up to the desk
and said, 'I've been getting on this plane, you know, for 42 years. Why
can't I get on the plane?'''
"Mr. Kennedy said his situation highlighted the odyssey encountered by
people whose names had mistakenly appeared on terrorist watch lists or
resembled the names of suspected terrorists on such lists. In April, the
American Civil Liberties Union sued the government on behalf of seven
airline passengers who said they had wrongly been placed on no-fly lists or
associated with names on the lists and could not find a way to clarify
their
identities," The New York Times reported [7].
2. Bolivian President Evo Morales
The name of the president who has been highly critical of the Obama
Administration was discovered [8] on the terrorist watch list in 2009.
"The capitalist system that Obama represents is not a policy that embodies
the people of the United States, but a policy of the transnational
corporations, especially of those that commercialize weapons and push for
an
arms race," Morales told RT America in 2014.
"This kind of intervention that the US government provokes is a business to
them - a business that ends people's lives," Morales added.
3. Nelson Mandela
"Nelson Mandela is being remembered across the world (and political
spectrum) for his heroic, life-long battle against apartheid and injustice
in South Africa. But with all the accolades being thrown around, it's easy
to forget that the U.S., in particular, hasn't always had such a friendly
relationship with Mandela -- and that in fact, as late as 2008, the Nobel
Prize winner and former president was still on the U.S. terrorism watch
list," the Washington Post revealed [9] in 2013. As it turns out, because
Mandela was part of the African National Congress, the group trying to
overthrow the white apartheid-supporting government, he was placed on South
Africa's list, which the US adopted.
4 - 6. The James Robinsons
A former US Attorney General, an airline pilot and a third grader all share
the name "James Robinson" and are all on the terrorist watch list.
7. CNN Reporter Drew Griffin
Coinidentally, Griffin was also placed on the watch list "shortly after I
began a series of investigative reports critical of the TSA," he told CNN.
8. 6-Year-Old Alyssa Thomas
"We were puzzled," Dr. Santosh Thomas, Alyssa's father told CNN in 2011.
The
family found out at the Continental check-in after having booked a flight
from Cleveland to Minneapolis. "They said, 'She's on a list,' I said,
'Well,
what does she have to do to get off that list?"
9. 8-Year-Old Mikey Hicks
"My mom thinks that some terrorist has the same name as me and my dad,"
Hicks told CBS. According to his mother, the family has had to battle with
this unfortunate discrepency nearly Mikey's entire life.
10. Stanford Ph.D Student Rahinah Ibrahim
In January 2014, a federal judge ruled [10] that, "the Department of
Homeland Security made a "mistake" when it put a former Stanford University
PhD student on the government's no-fly terrorist watch list and must give
her an opportunity to apply for reentry to the United States."
That was nearly a decade after Ibrahim discovered she was even on the list
-
in 2005. Ibrahim's case was "the first and only successful challenge to the
terrorist watch-listing program, which arose following the 9/11 attacks,"
Ars Technica confirmed [11].
Alexandra Rosenmann is an AlterNet associate editor. Follow her
@alexpreditor [12].
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[4]
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/15/democrats-embrace-secretive-flawed-terro
r-watchlist-in-fight-against-gun-violence/
[5] https://theintercept.com/2014/07/23/blacklisted/
[6]
https://www.aclu.org/blog/victory-no-fly-list-process-ruled-unconstitutional
[7]
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/us/senator-terrorist-a-watch-list-stops-ke
nnedy-at-airport.html?_r=0
[8] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/03/watc-m12.html
[9]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/12/07/why-nelson-mandela
-was-on-a-terrorism-watch-list-in-2008/
[10]
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/19/local/la-me-watch-list-20140120
[11]
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/after-seven-years-exactly-one-per
son-gets-off-the-govt-no-fly-list/
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